<p>^except you can see edits made to that website and there have been no recent edits to those numbers at all. In fact I remember seeing the exact same numbers 2-3 years ago.</p>
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<p>Caltech may have a narrow tech focus, but not MIT. In fact, many of MIT’s non-STEM fields (economics, philosophy, linguistics, etc.) rank higher than those at Cornell.</p>
<p>It’s hard to argue that Cornell has a greater “undergraduate focus” when its undergraduate student body is larger than that at MIT, Stanford or Caltech.</p>
<p>A higher (engineering) undergraduate-to-graduate ratio isn’t very helpful when you end up competing against a higher number of other engineering undergraduates for access and availability to professors, on-campus resources as well as post-graduate jobs and admissions to graduate and professional schools.</p>
<p>Since most Cornell engineering undergraduates would’ve gone to MIT, Stanford or Caltech had they gotten in, they’d probably agree…</p>
<p>More Stanford, probably. MIT and Cal Tech are harder to get admitted to, but not everyone who wants to go to a diverse university equally wants to attend a mostly lopsided tech school, due to their other academic and, perhaps importantly, social interests. Some do, of course.</p>
<p>"In fact I remember seeing the exact same numbers 2-3 years ago. "
when you put them there…</p>
<p>Are there really more engineering undergrads at Cornell than MIT? Do they not have more professors too? I didn’t know that. I wouldn’t have said Cornell engineering is particularly undergraduate focused, but I’ve nothing to compare it to. There weren’t many warm fuzzies there. But people I know who went to MIT seem to describe it there as much worse, in that regard. We didn’t really feel we were in competition for jobs or grad schools with just people from our own school particularly, rather we were in competition with the whole universe of people who were applying, from all top schools in aggregate. And for that purpose, the feeling was we were well trained and well regarded. The people who deserved it got into top programs and top jobs. I wouldn’t have expected more from anyplace else.</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t say that. Stanford has a lower acceptance rate (and a higher yield rate) and is looking for something else other than academic (math/science) talent…</p>
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<p>Sure, but the overwhelming majority of engineers have no problem going to “a mostly lopsided tech school.” The fact that many Cornell engineers are MIT rejects suggests this…</p>
<p>I will amend, to be clearer. Not every engineering student who wants to go to a diverse university equally wants to attend a mostly lopsided tech school, due to their other academic and, perhaps importantly, social interests. Some do, of course.</p>
<p>I for one have no basis to speak for the “overwhelming majority of engineers”, I do know several of my fellow students there specifically chose to apply to diverse universities, and not colleges thought to be primarily tech schools,for various reasons of personal preference. YMMV.</p>