@tk21769, I think that it’s wrong to say that lacking a pre-professional focus is a feature common to Ivies/equivalents considering that roughly half of the 16 RU’s I deem Ivies/equivalents (Penn, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, MIT, Rice, Caltech, and arguably Stanford) have a big chunk and possibly even a majority of their undergrads in pre-professional majors. And all except UChicago have undergraduate engineering schools/majors. Penn and Georgetown have a nursing major. Cornell and Rice have an architecture major. Cornell also has an Ag school.