<p>I just finished writing a guide - about 30 pages - on the whole Ivy recruiting process. Basically everything I wish I knew when we started out. Sherpa was kind enough to assist with some much-needed copy editing and a few great insights. Anyway, if anyone would like a copy emailed to them, just PM me. Merry Christmas. (Hopefully this isn't a terms of service violation)</p>
<p>I don’t think I can send an attachment using the CC email form, (or at least I can’t figure out how)- so I’ll need your email address if you’re interested. (I won’t abuse it - promise)</p>
<p>Varska and Sherpa,</p>
<p>Very well done! I enjoyed it very much, and some of it looks vaguely familiar. 
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<p>I hereby nominate you for the CC Purlitzer Prize!</p>
<p>Thanks. I enjoyed this too and would expecially recommend this for any junior athletes interested in attending Ivy League schools.</p>
<p>I give this a high review too. You would have to read several hundred CC posts + visit websites to gather the insights that are found within. Thank you for writing this!</p>
<p>I’m bumping this to get it back to the top. </p>
<p>I think the guide is phenomenal. I’ve read countless college admissions books, including probably every one related to athletic admissions and/or scholarships, and this is without question the best compilation of advice for the prospective Ivy League student athlete. Varska gives me (too much) credit for helping with editing, but the real credit probably should go to all of the helpful participants in this forum. The guide is basically a succinct distillation of the collective wisdom and experience of the many here who have navigated the process.</p>
<p>Thank you, varska, for this fantastic resource.</p>
<p>Can’t wait to read it!</p>
<p>For my first post in CC, I’m happy to vouch for how great this guide is. I’ve got a HS Junior and a Freshman. I’ve been on CC for about 4 months and have greatly enjoyed the message threads. This guide condenses down what I’ve been learning into a clear narrative of what to expect and how best to work through this confusing and exhilarating time in the life of your child. It’s also a pretty great story with a happy ending!</p>
<p>Varska sent it to me a while ago, and I can not get over how wonderful this guide is. Even though I am done with the process myself, it was still wonderful to read through and see how our experiences were similar and different. Thanks again!!!</p>
<p>Help - I am a fossil and don’t know how to “pm”, and I really really would like to read Varska’s guide. Might anyone be able to help me?</p>
<p>Nevermind - I just figured out what “pm” means, and better yet, how to do it :)</p>
<p>Welcome to the Fossil Bed, PacaMom :)</p>
<p>Excellent guide Varska and Sherpa, very good job. I’ve read it all and I just want to know one thing, how does all that apply to international students. Can someone help? Thank you.</p>
<p>Just read it. Very thorough with detailed info and great insights regarding the Ivy recruiting process.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing this, varska and sherpa. You do a great job of weaving a real and compelling experience into the framework of the timeline and “strange but true” realities of Ivy recruiting. </p>
<p>Two comments:</p>
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<li><p>I really appreciate your family’s way of dealing honestly with coaches. Calling the coach who wasn’t chosen as soon as possible is such an important thing to do. I suspect he was able to call the next girl on the list that same night and give her some good news.</p></li>
<li><p>Some readers may wonder about the possibility of a second recruiting round in the Ivies, following the Nov 1 deadline. It would be great if someone who continued making OVs after Nov 1, and then went through this process as an RD applicant would write a chapter on this subject, complete with the timeline and steps needed to close the deal. I think it’s best to get this over with in the early fall, as you did, but there are a surprising number of unfilled spots on some Ivy rosters after the first round. I’m not the one to address this (our process was almost identical to yours, varska- we should have a beer at a meet some time but someone on CC probably has a story to tell.</p></li>
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<p>Thanks again, you guys. Great work!</p>
<p>It would be great to get this type of info for the highly selective DIII schools, too.</p>
<p>Soccermomz, this guide is also incredibly accurate for DIII schools, especially the Nescacs, with the noteworthy exceptions of Likely letters, AI and official visits, which are not allowed in DIII. Most of the highly selectives have ED so there isnt need for likely letters, and unfortunately no OV. However is you are invited on an overnight, spending the time escorted by a current player in the Nescac world, that is the equivalent of an OV. There is no AI so each school, in each sport, has a different threshold that they are looking for. I agree with the club coach quoted in the guide, cast a large net and see what you catch. Sometimes one school isnt interested, not because you arent qualified, but because they recruited the exact YOU, last year… </p>
<p>If you have any specific questions ask, or PM me… No experience with Soccer but son went football in the nescacs.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>There are OV’s in DIII. Schools are allowed to pay, according to NCAA rules. Do NESCAC’s have their own set of rules in this regard</p>
<p>Google “NESCAC Bands” and you will get lots of links to the “slot and band” system that NESCAC’s use. The numbers that you see can vary a lot, though, and I don’t think that the SATII info is accurate. We were told by one coach that at his school a 3.1 GPA from a New England private school (not one of the top preps; a day school) was considered as an A-band, so rigor of curriculum and school is definitely taken into account.</p>
<p>I typed too fast and left out the word paid. There are no paid official visits. </p>
<p>I dont think it only applies to football, but no bands were ever discussed with any nescac coach. And between camps, showcases, and recruiting we talked to most, Amherst, Colby, Bates, bowdoin, wesleyan, trinity, and even tufts who we were told had a floor of 3.5 gpa no matter what. Also, OV to gettysburg and Kenyon also. I do believe NESCAC rules prohibit paid visits. </p>
<p>Some schools invite and pay for a visit under different non athletic recruiting efforts, URM, SAT scholar, special talent etc, but I dont know of any who pay for athletic recruiting visits</p>
<p>I think people try to compare the process to ivys and that is where the confusion comes in with AI. Most of the Nescacs claim to use the “wholistic approach” to reviewing applications, so not sure how that would fit with AI.</p>