Ivy League Early EDs?

<p>I am trying to figure out what path to take for college admissions...a few factors to consider. Here is my stats thread.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1672492-chances-at-cornell-ed-columbia-ed-mit.html#latest"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1672492-chances-at-cornell-ed-columbia-ed-mit.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>So I live in NY, and want to apply to a prestigious university early. I plan on going perhaps an ED, and definited EAs to MIT, and UChicago, so any SCEA are out (HYPS) - because I am not dedicating my early chance to only one university.</p>

<p>Of the remaining my preference (as school I want to attend) goes as such. I am ranking my preferences out of 100:
MIT (EA - 8.97%) - 100
Columbia (ED - 19.72%) - 70
UChicago (EA- 12.12%) -40
Penn (ED - 25.23%) -30
Cornell (ED - 27.75%) - 30
Brown (ED - 18.88%) - 25
Dartmotuh (ED -27.95%) - 20
JHU (ED - ~33%) - 10</p>

<p>Please note, the above is purely listed on my preference (not acceptance rates - that was added for the next part of the question).</p>

<p>So which ED do you think I should go for, weighing my preference against acceptance rates (while considering my stats). For example, in the worst scenario, if you thought I was completely unqualified for any chance at these universities, you would say JHU because I pref that last, but that has highest ED acceptance rate.</p>

<p>This may seem arrogant, but the preference list drastically decreases. Even going ED to Columbia I am a little "meh" about, because if I get in to Columbia and MIT, I will extremely upset. So I place MIT super high on my list, and it decreases rapidly from there. This is why, (in the extremely low chance), you think I am a superbly qualified applicant, who should just go EA and not do ED (since I should be even to compete at MIT's 9% acceptance rate), then please indicate 0 EDs. </p>

<p>Also, if you have any other top institutions that go by unrestricted EA, please let me know, as I want to consider them as well. </p>

<p>In my heart, I know the safest bet (that would make me the least sad) would be the Cornell ED. But, I really would rather go Columbia ED if you think that my stats are good enough to withstand that 8% drop in applications. And of course, no ED would be awesome, but I am definitely overestimating my credentials at that point (in my opinion).</p>

<p>So yeah, please respond, and I will chance back/make recs to any respondent if requested to. I know this will take up a lot of your time, but please I would greatly appreciate it if you take it to help me!</p>

<p>I would say go Columbia ED. Your stats are on point and I think you have a pretty good chance of getting into Cornell without ED.</p>

<p>Even without ED you will probably get into at least one of your reaches, if not more, with stellar essays along with your stats. Of course that would be a risk and the odds will be against you (as with everyone) but it’s a shot worth taking if you’re willing (especially since MIT is your top choice!). </p>

<p>You realize MIT early action has no advantages right? The adcom at MIT treats EA and RD the same. You could potentially do MIT and UChi early if you wanted, but Cornell ED is still the safest bet.</p>

<p>@Oberyn‌ Yeah I know there is no advantage. I am doing it because, as slim as it as, and I repeat, as slim as it is, I could get rejected from my ED school and get accepted to an EA school (MIT or Chicago). And having that peace of mind of having gotten into a school of your chocie before regular decisions, is pretty stellar in my opinion. But I think nonetheless, you answered the question by suggesting Cornell. Thanks!</p>

<p>Based on your chances I would probably ED Columbia since you prefer it over Cornell, and RD Cornell since I think you have a great chance of getting in ED. I would also EA any other school that you can because then if you don’t get into your ED, you will still know earlier about your EA’s. </p>

<p>If you have time I would love a chance back!</p>

<p>@Abbybee23‌ Yeah sure! Chance back on the way!</p>

<p>If you prefer Columbia twice as much as Cornell, apply ED to Columbia. Your stats are great. Best of luck.</p>

<p>You should not waste your ED at MIT. If you did ED at Cornell, you would probably have an 85% of getting in. ED at Columbia would be above 60% IMO. Please chance back, and good luck! </p>

<p>EA at MIT is useless. Columbia ED is a good way to go. Since EA at MIT is not even single-choice, you can couple that with your ED at Columbia (if you get into both by any chance, you would have to go to Columbia though). Either way, you have to realize that ED means number 1 choice. You have to be happy at that school and not be ‘meh’ about it. Don’t just look at it as a purely statistical game of chances. </p>

<p>Here’s my opinion:</p>

<p>Don’t ED at Cornell, Penn, Brown, Dartmouth, or JHU. It seems like you really don’t want to attend any of these schools and you’re probably in for RD at Cornell anyway (and that seems to be the other ED that you’re genuinely contemplating.) </p>

<p>To me, it seems like the real question is whether you want to apply ED to Columbia or just EA at MIT/Chicago. </p>

<p>I think that ED to Columbia would really help your chances (especially if you’re from Long Island and the NS in particular). </p>

<p>However, it really seems like your heart is set on MIT. To be honest, I think you’re really underestimating yourself and I wouldn’t be surprised if you got into MIT. If I were you, I would go EA to MIT and Chicago and hope for the best with Columbia RD. </p>

<p>If you do apply Columbia ED (which, to be honest, I wouldn’t do), I would probably only apply to MIT RD because then, if you get into Columbia, you won’t have to face the potential MIT acceptance. </p>

<p>P.S. PM me which CSH program you’re talking about (if you’re comfortable with that). If it’s what I think it is, then my above statements hold true.</p>

<p>You stand a good chance at being accepted at Columbia via ED. The biggest factor on if you are accepted or not will depend upon how you position yourself: are you going in as a prospective math major? engineering? pre-med? </p>

<p>Your ECs scream of a science/technology whiz</p>

<p>@sgopal2‌ I was going to apply to SEAS not the College, so Engineering.</p>

<p>@Classof2018app‌ You are absolutely right. I need to think about where I want to go, and stop fretting so much over admission rates. I am thinking too hard about strategy, and making it a game of statistical chances…thanks for that eyeopener line!</p>

<p>@lb43823‌ Hey, could you chance me back? I’d really appreciate it. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1672761-chance-me-for-stanford-university.html”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1672761-chance-me-for-stanford-university.html&lt;/a&gt;
Thanks! </p>

<p>@Dream0n Yeah sure!</p>

<p>Bump. More responses please :P</p>

<p>

. If you are interested in engineering then why did you do the cancer research? How does this apply to your future prospective major?</p>

<p>Don’t you think your background matches more with a prospective biology/biochem major at CC?</p>

<p>You are over-analyzing it IMHO, on the other hand, there is some information you should consider to rework your strategy.</p>

<p>Remember that various Ivies have a lot of legacy candidates apply ED, and they get a huge boost (something like 40% acceptance rate at some Ivies) compared to non-legacy ED candidates. You also have a lot of athletes applying ED, who would not get in except that they were recruited. For them, they get pre-reads and are well over 50% according to some estimates in terms of admission rates.</p>

<p>Once you take out those populations, the chances are about the same for a non-legacy non-recruited athlete in Ivy ED. So, unless you are a legacy at one of those schools or a recruited athlete, don’t stress over ED. Apply ED if one of the schools is your top choice no matter what, and you’d go there over all the others.</p>

<p>@sgopal2‌ I am first and foremost a math and computer science student. All my research internships (bio related) have been in computer science and programming, which then is used to answer a biological question. So, no I do not plan on majoring in bio or biochem at all, regardless of what university I attend. I want to be an engineer, math is my best subject, and my first love :slight_smile: And I don’t (and never will) intend on premed. </p>

<p>@rhandco Very interesting analysis. Although, I am sure that >80% has to be your regular applicant…I mean how many leagcy kids could there be?</p>