<p>Out of the 8 schools that make up the Ivy League, I know that many would consider Cornell the most inferior. If the Ivies were ranked by people, I know that it be ranked #8. </p>
<p>To current and prospective students, how do you feel about this mindset people have developed about Cornell?</p>
<p>In my heart, it's #1.</p>
<p>I guess the school as a whole sort of is not as established as the other seven (c'mon it's the ivy league, they're all pretty damn established), but i think you really have to look at cornell and break it down. The AEM program/undergrad business program is one of the best in the country and really good for recruiting. The Hotel School is unique and also considered very prestigious. The Engineering school is the best in the Ivies I think (sorry I haven't checked the rankings in a while for engineering, but I remember Cornell engineering being up there). The rest of the school is still solid.</p>
<p>I mean what do you think of when you think Cornell? You think of Ivy League. So it's not really a problem. </p>
<p>My only issue with Cornell is the fact that it has all these grants through NY state. It kind of has an identity crisis in that it's a private university, but it's got public aspect. I'm sure people from NY disagree with me there.</p>
<p>I disagree. The Labor Relations and Agriculture programs are very valuable to the state of NY. If anything, that makes it much better because of it's public/private aspects. Oh yes, and if you're in-state for either, it's less than normal tuition. Really, it's in such a beautiful place though "centrally isolated." I mean, I'm disappointed that it's not valued as much as other Ivies (persay).</p>
<p>i thought brown was ranked below cornell in the US news college rankings</p>
<p>yea, well too me its isolation was more appealing, however, to most, I feel that will be the ultimate basis on bringing it down, I say you move it two hours away or very close to a major city...Cornell would shoot up in popularity, rankings, and applicants....the actual school is great</p>
<p>yea i agree with cmb720...brown is number 8 in my mind, and in the mind of many employers too, because of its really open curriculum. you could spend 4 yrs at brown taking whatever the hell you want...and heads of companies/people who hire you know that.</p>
<p>also us news and world report agrees and ranks them lower.</p>
<p>as an alum I could care less where Cornell ranks compared to the other schools ... I care that it is still a terrific school. When I picked Cornell I turned down a "higher ranked" school because I thought Cornell would be a better place for me ... as an alum I continue to look at Cornell as an individual school without worrying about "ranking" comparisons. </p>
<p>Cornell has strong attributes that have nothing to do with rank ... I LOVED that Cornell in a college town and LOVED Ithaca itself ... that has nothing to do with it's rank and everything to do with what makes it different in a major dimension than Penn, Columbia, Harvard, MIT, etc.</p>
<p>I really like Brown, to be honest, I don't think it would be #8. Open curriculum means lots of people who take classes because they really want to and not because they're required. Friend loves it there. </p>
<p>Like others have said, Cornell has its own appeal. Undergrad engineering supposedly is ranked 7th in USNews now, best in the Ivy league : )</p>
<p>Cornell has an engineering school far beyond the rest of the ivy league, no doubt about that. In an ideal world, we'd all realize that the ivies are all pretty much the same and stop fighting over whether there are 3003 or 3009 schools in america that are worse than our own.</p>
<p>It was named this year as the "hottest Ivy," although I don't really care about that or any other ranking. College is what you make of it and 5 years out, no one is going to care where you went to school. It's about how you use your education. In my opinion there is way too much emphasis on comparative rankings, what top whatever grad schools people attend after undergrad, etc. on these forums. Regardless of what others think, Cornell is a great place to spend your undergraduate years and you all should be proud to attend.</p>
<p>To me Dartmouth and Brown are definitely #7 and #8. Both have essentially zero international recognition (hardly make to 50 in world-wide rankings and are surpassed even by NYU). So if your future employer didn't go to school in US and hasn't got college age kids, or if he is simply not into colleges and their rankings, he may not even know that Dartmouth and Brown are Ivies. Or he may not knw about Ivy league. But he is stil likely to know that Cornell is a top school.</p>
<p>Cornell was the ony Ivy I applied to, and I applied only because of ILR. I know maybe exactly one student for whom rankings made a difference at all in his decision; even though he didn't get into his top choice Ivy, it's not like he still harbors any bitterness since Cornell is SUCH a fantastic place. Most of my friends had Cornell as their top choice and are still thrilled to be there. Also, if people look down on Cornell, really, who cares? Not anyone who knows what an amazing school it is. </p>
<p>I agree with everyone who has mentioned the remarkable combination of state university/Ivy League prestige. It gives Cornell an extremely unique character. Even though our public service mission isn't that visible, it's so much more developed than any of the other Ivies. Our land grant colleges (not like I'm biased!) are very uniquely Cornell. The fact that we might be considered in "a lesser Ivy" may even contribute to the remarkable lack of arrogance among Cornellians, something I consider an asset to the school. Given how smart, ambitious, and motivated people are here, I have met suprisingly few arrogant jerks. Andy Bernard of The Office, as far as I'm concerned, is quite the rarity.</p>
<p>I heart Andy Bernard....his nipples bleed Big Red</p>
<p>I feel the pain of people not realizing your school is an Ivy...happens to me all the time.</p>
<p>There are subtle hints you can drop, like... this Ivy</a> League Athletics - T-Shirt (White) :)</p>
<p>I think that after HYP, the remaining ivies are equal in terms of ranking and prestige because depending on who is doing the ranking, they are all mixed up from one list to the next and from one year to the next. The important thing is who is doing the hiring when you graduate. Each of these schools have great alumni networks and these people seem to tend to prefer those who attended their own schools. Also, be aware that this ranking business is an especially hot topic for high school students and their parents. Once happily ensconced in a great school, its name isn't a focus anymore. Instead, what is important is how you take advantage of what the college offers. And Cornell offers endless opportunities.</p>
<p>There are 4100+ pluses colleges and universities in the U.S. </p>
<p>Cornell is considered and consistently ranked in the top 15. 99+ percentile.</p>
<p>Cornell has more worldwide recognition other than HYSPM.</p>
<p>Cornell's ranking among the other Ivy League schools= non-issue for most Cornell students</p>
<p>ok let's make some sense here. if you were going to major in engineering..hotel..architecture...food science..and a lot of other majors..you would very much rather attend cornell than HYP. while HYP may get more recognition and have some great strengths, we do have a lot of schools here that are consistently ranked higher than their respective schools in HYP.</p>
<p>ppl at Cornell def don't talk about being inferior...ever, lol. Maybe highschoolers think about it but once u get to a top college it's what you do there that makes the difference in ur life. You can always go to grad school at the places that are "better" if u want.</p>
<p>I love that Cornell is one of the only great schools that is self-contained...u are around other Cornellians all day. There is a great sense of community and students don't just go home during the weekend or slip into the city w/ a couple friends...when ur at Cornell ur at Cornell and around Cornellians and that's an amazing four years!</p>