<p>Arjun has a point- Even George Bush went to Yale and graduated. That says a lot about the school. LOL</p>
<p>True. But Arjun is got into Cornell...that tells enough about cornell. But yeah, lets see if he graduates. Bush graduated, but dunno whats in store for ASP. If he maintains his wonderful attitude...ehem...we gotta see how long he survives.</p>
<p>Bush got into Yale when most colleges weren't that meritocratic to begin with. He was also a legacy and daddy was a bigshot. The family was rich and influential.</p>
<p>And don't underestimate Bush. If you despise him so, you should be channeling your anger towards the 51% of your countrymen who thought he was good enough for another 4 years.</p>
<p>If you're not from the US the point still holds.</p>
<p>Well, Bush really is retarded...i mean he cant deliver a decent public speech without fumbling. Clinton was much more sensible...i guess being really educated (rhodes scholar etc.) makes a difference.</p>
<p>To be honest, the only thing he has is decent public speaking skills.</p>
<p>what? I dont think uv heard him then...</p>
<p>Arjun really made a mess of this thread. Not only did he make himself look bad, he reinforced the stereotypes a lot of us have about Cornell. (inferiority complex etc.)</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the TOPIC...I've heard Dartmouth called the conservative Ivy.</p>
<p>i heard dartmouth is a party school i donno if it's really tru and brown, a hippy school.</p>
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I have and so I mentioned "decent", not "good".</p>
<p>the whole yale/cornell debate is a bit pathetic as both are excellent schools which many college-bound spawn of baby boomers would kill to get into... let's not overlook that it's all about how hard you work... an idiot can go to yale and still come out an idiot (witness bush) just as a genius can go to cornell and still come out a genius... or a genius can get into cornell and/or yale, have a fiery debate about which is better, and alas, come out an idiot... but while we're at it, GO PENN!, where the kids have brains AND social skills...</p>
<p>Actually, from what I've seen, Yale is the most social Ivy. The other Ivies have dead campuses by comparison. The place is insane on weekends, with packed sidewalks, reflecting the amount of stuff the undergrads and grad students are involved in right in the area around the campus. I'd say Dartmouth and Penn are the runners-up.</p>
<p>I donno...when I walk through Harvard in Boston I see beer cans all over and people partying during the weekend LOL. And Cornell is also a "work hard, play hard" school. With such a big student population there have to be a lot of good parties...</p>
<p>I would not say Cornell has a dead campus. One of my professors said that Cornell has the second largest greek scene in the nation (second to a state school in the midwest, i forget which one). This does an incredible job of making the campus alive on weekends and nights. Also, Cornell does a great job of providing on campus activities for its students - there's an on campus movie theater, 4 or 5 gyms, the athletic games, on campus bowling alley, concerts occur often, plus weekly cultural events. Or, you can also get wasted. The thing that separates Cornell from Yale is the fact that the town also provides nightlife for the students. It's easy to just walk off campus to the bars or restaurants with a group of friends for a fun night. I may be wrong, but according to my friends at Yale, this isn't the safest idea in New Haven.</p>
<p>The area within a few blocks of Yale has significantly more nightlife than any of the other immediate Ivy surrounds. There are hundreds of bars, restaurants and coffeeshops all around the university. It is the center for regional nightlife (Yale is not the largest school in the area) and buzzing on weekends with tens of thousands of people, both students and wealthy area residents. The cultural and economic life is so appealing that million-dollar lofts and condos are being built all over the area, which appeal to wealthier young professionals and married couples. There are some old negative stereotypes persisting about the place (just as there are with other major cities, such as New York or Boston), but they really aren't anywhere close to the truth.</p>
<p>"The area within a few blocks of Yale has significantly more nightlife than any of the other immediate Ivy surrounds"</p>
<p>Ithaca has more restaurants and bars per capita than any other city in the US. I don't doubt yale has many, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion of "signifcantly more" than the other ivies. Columbia has new york city, after all. </p>
<p>"There are some old negative stereotypes persisting about the place, but they really aren't anywhere close to the truth"</p>
<p>I dunno man, I do have some relatives who live just outside of New Haven. Their stories are much different.</p>
<p>posterx, curb your enthusiam! Massive build-ups lead to let downs,..likely the source of reported grumbling among Harvard students. The secret to happiness is low expectations,...</p>
<p>New York City is very large, and not immediately accessible in the couple of blocks around Columbia. There are a few restaurants in the area, but Columbia is in a fairly marginal section of the city. New York City as most people think of it requires a subway ride, which is the major factor contributing to the stunning lack of campus life at Columbia.</p>
<p>That rating system is quite outdated, given the way cities are becoming more popular.</p>