Ivy League Swimming Recruitment

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>I am a male swimmer interested in swimming at Brown, Harvard, Williams, Bates, Amherst and a few other colleges. Applying this fall.</p>

<p>First of all my academics are strong. I am in year 12 ,Junior year, currently doing three A-Levels (at the moment I have AAA after my January AS modules, I am predicted A*AA) Maths, Chemistry and Biology. I have done my SAT subject test in Biology-M and Chemistry - 710 and 720 - I take SAT I in October. Do you think 1900 is a strong enough score to aim for?</p>

<p>As for swimming, I am a Junior International.
My times are: 100 Free (Long Course) - 51.89, (Short Course) - 50.62
50 Free (Long Course) - 23.78, (Short Course) - 23.10
100 Back (Long Course) - 59.10, (Short Course) - 57.96
100 Breast (Short Course) - 1:06.82
100 Fly (Short Course) - 57.88
50 Fly (Long Course) - 25.57, (Short Course) - 25.12</p>

<p>Does anyone have any advice for me? Are my scores good enough? Are my times good enough? Is it likely a coach will help me out with admissions? What scores are required to be recruited for Harvard's men's swimming and diving? How much can a coach help me with the admissions process?</p>

<p>Many thanks for your help! :)</p>

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<p>2100 is a safer cutoff. </p>

<p>I suggest you go research on the site below for comparative times. Definitely not fast enough for Harvard, but try the others.</p>

<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.collegeswimming.com/teams/]Teams[/url”&gt;Coaches]Teams[/url</a>]</p>

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<p>Thanks Falconflyer, for reference the ‘Short Course’ times listed about are meters times, not yards.</p>

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<p>Yeah, should have paid attention to the international part. Thanks for the correction. I do suggest though the best way to know to fill out a recruitment form on all the colleges websites. The coaches will let you know what they think.</p>

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<p>You may get some knowledgeable responses in the athletic recruit forum.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/athletic-recruits/[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/athletic-recruits/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Many thanks guys! :)</p>

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<p>…hopefully, you are well sorted by now, but thought I would add to this for maybe, other/future readers too. If money is not an issue, you should fare well with Brown. Your academics look OK (good) and if you get what you are predicted, would get you into most UK universities (apart from Cambridge) for most courses - though not Maths. I think this is therefore good enough for the schools you are looking at over here too, although maybe not H if you don’t have the swimming ‘hook’.</p>

<p>Regarding SATs, most of your targets will have experienced Admissions Officers who will be able to appreciate that without the years of training/practice for SAT/ACTs that most US HSers get, like for like, your scores may well be that bit lower. </p>

<p>You say you are a Junior International, but for that (if you represented the UK/GB), your times seem a bit stale; you definitely might want to use your most up to date times to show that you have been improving.</p>

<p>Looking at all of the above, you should definitely be an asset to a team somewhere, and what might swing it for you is not needing any financial aid, especially with the ones that are not needs blind for Internationals. </p>

<p>With the Ivies, the only way to really know is to ask them if they will give you a ‘Likely letter’, if so, this will answer your question as to the amount of assistance you can expect, although it will not guarantee your acceptance in the school.</p>

<p>With the others, perhaps just ask them outright if they will. You could say you are a bit worried about your SAT Is in that you fear you might not compare favourably with other applicants since you have had little preparation - which would be the case unless you attend Millfield, or one of the International Schools in the UK that does prepare its students for SATs, and if so, would they be able to help. My own research makes me think you will probably be fine anyway especially if you can pay. Being from the UK should add to the culture mix in any of the schools, and this might be seen to be desirable, especially where there are few or no Brits (again, not so much H).</p>

<p>Lastly, sitting SAT I in October might be a bit late. If a coach is going to help you, you might find that your application needs to be in pretty early - for some, by 1 November. you should bear in mind that the results can take up to 6 weeks to get where they need to get to from the day you sit the test, although I think you can pay extra and have the processing expedited (once the results are out). </p>

<p>Good luck though!!</p>