<p>**** prestige, I want an education that's quirky, radical and theoretical enough for me to thrive and excel in. If Harvard can't do that for you, the brand name means next to nothing.</p>
<p>Princeton
Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown
Penn
Cornell</p>
<p>That's how it always was in my house growing up. Dartmouth wasn't prestigious for its academics around here though. Basically, animal house is one of my dad's favorite movies.</p>
<p>My perception is that there is a lot of reflected glory from HYP to the others. A question I frequently wonder about is how well would the lower Ivies be considered or ranked if they were NOT in the Ivy League. For example, would Brown or Cornell or even Penn be popular with applicants or academics or the media if they were part of the ACC (like Duke) or the Big 10 (like Northwestern) or the SEC (like Vanderbilt) or the Pacific 10 (like Stanford)?</p>