<p>Aries, where did you get the cross admit data? Isn't that usually sensitive? :)</p>
<p>I never reveal my sources - at least online. ;)</p>
<p>Suffice to say, it is something that I heard from an administrator.</p>
<p>i met a kid at tufts 3 days ago who chose it over harvard</p>
<p>Cornell doesn't deserve to be an Ivy?</p>
<p>You're missing the point completely. The point is that it can be an Ivy, or it can't, and either way, it just shouldn't matter.</p>
<p>To clarify, while I would definitely pick Tufts over Cornell or Dartmouth, that doesn't mean I am anti-Ivy. I admit that I applied to Columbia, and that Harvard was my dream school although I was too much of a realist to apply there. Regardless of all of that, there's no reason to be grouping these eight schools together.</p>
<p>Honestly dont even worry about it..just be happy with your choice... I also got into Tufts on this like semi full scholarship program thing...something like that...and I ended up choosing Penn (wharton in particular)...over tufts and princeton...and it is soooooo annoying when people question MY deicison..based soley on those rankings by US news... ok number 1 and number 4....WOW...wut a difference especially since im going to wharton..number 1 business lol...but I frineds that chose tufts over many other schools such as WAsh U in St. Louis, Emory, Penn, Princeton and Harvard</p>
<p>It is a bit ridiculous that the Ivies are held up as the paragon of colleges, while there are a number of schools much better than they are. It seems schools can't keep from comparing themselves to the Ivies. Here's what I found while flipping through my 2002 version of The Best 331 Colleges:</p>
<p>Centre College - "'Harvard of the South'"</p>
<p>Davidson College - "Princeton of the South"</p>
<p>Emory University - "Emory holds its own against venerable 'big brothers' like Harvard and Yale."</p>
<p>Miami University - "'Harvard of Ohio'"</p>
<p>Northwestern University - "Ivy of the Midwest"</p>
<p>Rice University - "'Ivy of the South'"</p>
<p>Stanford University - "de facto Ivy League status"</p>
<p>State University of New York, Binghamton - "'the Ivy of the SUNYs'"</p>
<p>State University of New York at Geneseo - "'Harvard of the SUNY system'"</p>
<p>Vanderbilt University - "'academics on par with any Ivy League school'"</p>
<p>what does the book say about tufts?</p>
<p>The very first sentence begins, "Known for stealing the Ivy wait-list population, Tufts University..."</p>
<p>oh ok nice... lol</p>
<p>that's brutal.</p>
<p>I am sorry, if you turned down Cornell engineering for Tufts engineering, you made a HORRIBLE mistake. Good luck finding a job after Tufts engineering buddy, its not a bad program, but it isn't top notch either. For engineering, you would be better off at Illinois than Tufts, b/c Tuft's program is lacking, and is small, and lacks proper funding. Nontheless, GOOD LUCK at IVY REJECT SCHOOL LOL, just kidding, its a great school :)</p>
<p>shut up collegekid! its about individual fit, not the US news & world report crap. how is choosing the school you feel most contented at a horrible mistake??</p>
<p>i am sorry, but don't engineers go to engineering schools for the purpose of receiving the best possible education in that arena. I mean, there are some great schools out there that have terrible engineering departments. Like I said earlier, engineers are heavily recruited from the top firms all across the country at the best engineering schools. At Tufts, which has a small program that is not known nationally, do you think big firms are going to come recruit at Tufts??</p>
<p>To further illustrate my pt, these rankings may be somewhat outdated or flawed. However, I do not think that US News would mess up by more than 30-40 spots for a school's rankings and peer reputation for undergraduate engineering. Put it this way, Tufts is tied with the other schools for #74 on the undergraduate engineering rankings.</p>
<ol>
<li>Oregon State University * 2.9
Polytechnic University (NY) 2.9
Syracuse University (NY) 2.9
Tufts University (MA) 2.9
Tulane University (LA) 2.9
University of Cincinnati * 2.9
University of Kansas * 2.9
Washington State University *<br></li>
</ol>
<p>Cornell is #10, with a peer rep of 4.2</p>
<p>Tufts Engineering isn't highly thought of locally in Boston, let alone nationally. I'm sure everyone planning to attend has their own reasons, though.</p>
<p>According to your logic, DimageZ would be better off going to Arizona State (#34). Somehow, I highly doubt a major company will be more interested in highering a Arizona State Grad than a Tufts Grad.</p>
<p>and to rich: You obviously haven't been around the Boston area. There's plenty of employers and firms that hire from Tufts. Yes, MIT is obviously going to be more regarded in engineering than Tufts, but that doesn't mean that people believe that Tufts is inferior.</p>
<p>I don't know of any Tufts engin. grads who had trouble finding jobs or getting into excellent grad schools. 'Nuff said. You naysayers are in high school, not engin. employers - and it shows.</p>
<p>You'd be very wrong then, JT. Do yourself a favor and check out some large companies and see where they recruit on campus. You'll certainly find Arizona State on their recruiting lists with far greater frequency than than you'll find Tufts. GE? Microsoft? Doesn't mean that Tufts engineering is "bad" by any stretch, its just that as I said, its not very highly regarded for engineering. Its a tiny program at a tiny school that is more known for sending its students on to law school, med school, etc, and not a source of engineering talent. The reason I say that Tufts isn't highly regarded locally is due to the fact that there are several other engineering schools in the Boston area that have better reputations for engineering than Tufts -- MIT, Northeastern, Boston University, WPI, UMass-Amherst all come to mind. </p>
<p>I don't want to get in a p1ss1ng match here, and I'm sure Tufts has a fine engineering school, just wanted to point out that a universities general prestige factor and difficulty of admittance doesn't automatically translate to a level of prestige in the real world. While I don't think of US News rankings as absolute truth, I do think they are fairly accurate in a very general sense. Schools ranked in the 70s are not placed there by mistake or lack of awareness.</p>
<p>omg, plz, no, he wouldn't be better off at Arizona State, but at a better program, yes, if his/her main goal is to be recruited by the best companies out there and to get the best jobs, is to go to the best possible school with a good engineering program.</p>
<p>oooh goody. just what i really wanted... some heated debate about engineering in Tufts.</p>