IVYs, Uchicago Not MIT and Stanford ED1, EA, ED2 Deffered

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Chicago ✅
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ED1: They all want a commitment in Nov, so ED1 is a Must. You are my number one choice.

EA: what message does that send them. I don’t want/Can’t to commit to you and I want to test other schools. NO One likes this

ED2: What does that say about the applicant
(specially the time frame between decisions in 12/17 and ED2 deadline 1/15) is 4 weeks including 2 weeks break)
The applicant did not want to commit to ED1.
The applicant tried to commit to ED1 to some one else but got denied.
The applicant EAed to someone else but got denied.
The applicant tried ED1 or EA at this school, but we did not want to give a big denial stat, so we will spread it to ED2 and RD. since your application will not change, why would our decision. Unless you were an athlete and we waited for your mid year grades.

Did I miss something? why would Anyone consider EA or ED2 if ED1 was offered.

Most schools fill their spots from the “small” number of ED1 applicants.

A Deferral is EVIL.
If you were deffered by a boyfriend/girlfriend what does that mean?
It’s the same as if you EA or ED2 but did not ED1 …

you are shopping, and so are they… my 2 cents

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Did you ever consider that some potential students do not have unlimited funds? That maybe they need to look at financial implications? Did you know that the majority of ED1 applicants are wealthy and can pay the full ticket price?
Elitism alive and well.

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OP, you are taking the admission decision way too personally. Holocaust is evil. Nanjing Massacre is evil. An admission deferral, on the other hand, is NOT evil. No one actually dies from the deferral decision. Indeed the applicant is not even denied admission. He/she just needs to wait for the regular round.

If you think the universities are treating admission as business decision, do the same. You can’t make emotional business choice. Learn to stay detached. If School A doesn’t admit you but School B does, invest your emotion in School B then.

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EA = “I like you a lot, but show me the money/ I want to keep my options open.” Nothing wrong with that, and there aren’t actually very many schools that offer both ED and EA… most have just one or the other.

And as another poster says, try not to take a deferral too personally. A lot of schools use ED1 to lock in their athletic recruit positions, legacy slots, and other specially hooked slots and defer nearly everyone else to the regular pool. Don’t turn it into a mind game of ‘if I got in on this round it must have meant this vs that’. I know it’s super stressful right now not knowing what you’ll be doing next fall… just hang in there a couple more months.

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Not all EA applicants are opportunistic. And some who primarily enjoy prestige apply ED1 simply because they have rationally and unfeelingly figured out which school gives them “the best chances” (in their view). And believe it or not, some even apply EDII because they needed the extra semester of good grades.

With the thousands upon thousands of applications these top schools are getting, they aren’t spending a ton of time guessing everyone’s “true motives”. There are, indeed, situations in which Admissions might have special information about a candidate that explains why he/she applied in a particular track, but mostly they do the obvious and just pick the strongest candidates who are in that pool. No doubt they would choose an ED candidate over a very similar one who is applying EA, but there are lots of regular smart EA kids who get in w/o needing ED. It’s just a smaller pool and a riskier venture so be prepared with backups if need be.

The “don’t apply ED2” statement makes no sense - the candidate has signed a binding agreement and that speaks volumes about level of commitment for that round of applications. Why should UChicago care about what happened last fall?

Looking at a deferral as if some object of your affection is just not that into you . . . well, that’s kinda what happens with a deferral, and it can sting. Life is full of those punched-in-the-gut moments and many of them will hurt worse than not getting into your top choice college. Use this time of hurt to reflect on what’s great about your application and your backups and move on with your next steps. Don’t be stalking the CC boards with talk of being the victim of evil because that sounds a tad unhinged.

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I never said not ED2, but where to.
I know it’s not personal. I feel for admissions people too.

you can ED2 or RD to the same school.
luckily, I had the option to ED2 for several. for me personally, Uchicago, would be great, but might as well do stanford with those numbers.
I will be realistic, act 35, national merit,my defferment was not due lack of commitment by going EA. Financial aid would have clearly showed that.

I tried
Deffered Wharton(yes specifically), Deffered EA Uchicago … Will through the RD, even though the odds are slim.
Williams College it is (JAN 4th baby :slight_smile: thank god for the common data set

Thank you all for the feedback. DONE DONE DONE, at least for now

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@JBStillFlying I have no idea what are you talking about.

DO ED2 anywhere… I just wanted the best odds…
Do i do ED2 at uchicago, or other place.
I am not looking for onions, I like numbers

“Don’t be stalking the CC boards with talk of being the victim of evil because that sounds a tad unhinged.”
really

I am not a victim, I understand the numbers and the probability… there is 1 for every 15 candidates. most of the ones that are accepted are just as good in my book as the ones accepted…

I applied for Wharton,
fully knowing that they accept a very limited number of applicants.
fully knowing that Legacy, Athletes, alums, Trumps, and loads of other that are brilliant and DON’T need Aid will be ahead of me.
fully knowing that Upenn numbers are NOT wharton numbers.

I am not stalking the board. I have a TOTAL of 17 posts, of which 14 in uchicago,
as that was one of my schools. since ED Upenn did not work

I was in three 3 all asking about ED2 that’s it…

you have well over 5200 posts… DAMN … I’m stalking with 17 posts … so if you were posting one post a day, this means you did not miss a post in over 10 years … that can’t be right … If that number is right … I wish you the best of luck Senior member.

Not to be an a**, but I wanted data, numbers, not opinions, to make an unbiased decision. you have not provided a number from anywhere.

Williams ED (I converted)
Chicago, Upenn, Northwestern RD

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@ChunkyCat - Good luck to you in your college admissions journey!

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OP, data and numbers are sometimes impossible to get. No one outside of the Admission Office has those numbers. If anyone else has them, they are not disclosing the numbers on public forum. You are asking for insider information that nobody else has. This is what @JBStillFlying tries to convey to you.

Learn to make decision under uncertainty. If I knew beforehand the monthly unemployment rate and nonfarm payroll data on every first Wednesday of the month, I would have been richer than Jeff Bezo. But no one in the investment community knows about that ahead of the official Friday 8:30 am release. So everyone has to make a decision based on their subjective probability.

By the same token, you have to make your ED2 decision without that EA->ED2 admission number. Create your own estimate and make a decision tree from there.

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Williams doesn’t have ED2, only ED and that deadline was 11/15. The remaining deadline (RD) is January 1st, 2019. (January 4th is the “student reply” deadline for students already admitted ED to accept their offer of admission.) Good luck.

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It’s not just an ACT composite. Learn what any targets want before applying. Don’t spin your wheels with assumptions.

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@Leigh22 maybe elitism alive and well, but these students will also be discriminated against at Many schools when merit scholarships are awarded. So I guess it evens things out