Jerome Fisher M&T

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Pennsylvania
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<p>I’m sure this has been brought up a couple times, I’m just wondering if anyone could provide me a little more insight on the program. Specifically, is there anyone here who has actually enrolled in the program or graduated from it? If so, I’d definetly be interested to know the worth and intensity of it? Also, if you wouldn’t mind sharing your stats…</p>

<p>BTW, does anyone know the types of jobs and which companies recruit from this program? Any information online would be awesome (as I am hoping to show some people…)</p>

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<p>I got in with a 2 on the SAT and 50,000,000 on my shoulder.</p>

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<p>So all I need is $50,000,000. ;)</p>

<p>Anyone else?</p>

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<p>I really did get in though. What kind of insight are you looking for?</p>

<p>If I find you worthy I'll share my stats. All I'll say is this: it's alot of work, but many find it rewarding. Do it if you legitimately enjoy it, but if you just want to be an ibanker, just go to wharton. Do M&T because you honestly love the two and want to work in a capacity that merges both, not because you want to throw away your education to be an ibanker.</p>

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<p>Well I'm interested in finding out a couple things.</p>

<p>First the practicality of this kind of double major, and the kinds of jobs that come out of it.
Then, how intense is the workload? I've heard Wharton is so cutthroat by itself, and I am wondering what it would be like to try and do these two majors?
Most of all, I just want to know what the experience is like, and if it was worth trying to apply to a dual-degree program like this as opposed to just concentrating on one. </p>

<p>And JCoveney, what attracted me is that I DON'T was to a be an I-banker. I've been leaning towards business for a while, but I'm not really sure what I want to do. At the same time, I've always had an interest in math and science through high school, so I though it would be really cool that there is a combined program for these two areas. As far as what I want to be, I really don't know. That is part of the reason I'm interested where people go from here. All I know is that I'm interested in studying both of these things in college. </p>

<p>P.S. Your stats would really appreciated. ;)</p>

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<p>It's alot of work, but not unmanagable. You just have to be smart in your planning. Wharton isn't cutthroat...some people are, I guess, but they're tools: ignore them, they're not worth your time. You can handle M&T, you just have to make sure to be very diligent about your work or else your GPA will go down the crapper.</p>

<p>The program is geared to allow you to fulfil it...it can be done. Once again, however, it's all about diligence.</p>

<p>Where do people go? Lots of places. Engineering grad school, consulting, ibanks (I hate these people), but many go to google, microsoft, and firms based around technological innovation.</p>

<p>And why do you need my stats? I think it's rather irrelevant. It's a tough program to get into, but it's only getting harder and so on.</p>

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<p>JCo: I will assure you this -- as a new Wharton student I am going to avoid ibanking :)</p>

<p>As for Penn, I don't think any given schedule is impossible to fulfill. A lot of it IS diligence. I mean most people, I notice, don't spend a whole lot of time studying (maybe I am wrong though) but put things off -- if you keep on top of things and allot some time to get work done, I think it will all be very manageable.</p>

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<p>Dude max if you go into ibanking I will personally set you on fire</p>

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<p>I'm already on fire -- I'm smoking hot</p>

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<p>Tell that to my FIREHOSE</p>

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<p>Girth: 9 inches</p>

<p>Chances plz?</p>

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<p>are you guys planning on finishing in four or five years?</p>

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<p>I'm leaving the M&T program for reasons unrelated to the program, but most people I know plan on 4, some plan on 5. 4 is very manageable, but it depends...do you know what you want to do? What engineering major, and what concentration?</p>

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<p>"Girth: 9 inches</p>

<p>Chances plz?"</p>

<p>Wait, are we talking diameter? What are you, a hippo?</p>

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<p>I'm MEAM but I don't know what concentration I'd be. However I think when I planned it out with a concentration in Stat, I ended up with a total of 57.5 credits, averaging about 6.5 credits a semester for a total of 4.5 years.</p>

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<p>You probably ignored double counting, and the fact that we get some credits waived. 57.5 is too many.</p>

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<p>es tee eff u jcoveny attn hor[se]
i know my spanish isnt very good but i meant to say hi</p>

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<p>how many people get accepted in the program every year? circa 50? and how come on the website they strongly discourage you to apply early?</p>

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<p>i dunno, I probably just planned it badly. how many credits do you think you're looking at?</p>

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<p>Okay, so clearly I have way too much time on my hands. I just graduated from the M&T program (entered in '02, finished in 4 years) and I won't really be able to entertain many questions since I start work in a week but I thought I'd drop by the old forums to see what prospective M&Ters were talking about.</p>

<p>My stats: SAT I (1520 M790 V730). I can't remember my SAT II figures... didn't get any 800s but they were all somewhere in the 750-790 range. I do know, however, that my SAT scores were below the M&T average if this is of any help. Statistically, subsequent classes of M&T students have only been more impressive.</p>

<p>My GPA went down the drain (3.2ish) but only because I was working 60 hours a week at the newspaper. Plenty of my peers handled the workload much better than I did and graduated magna if not summa. In fact, M&T students routinely sweep many of the senior engineering awards (based on leadership, academic achievement etc.) though not so much the senior wharton awards (based more on schmoozing -_-"). Despite my international student status, the fact that I did a BAS instead of a BSE, my concentrations in legal studies/management/marketing instead of the finance/accounting combo that seems so popular, and the fact that all of my work experience was geared toward a career in journalism/publishing, I still landed a decent 55k job without writing a single cover letter. Again, most of my peers went to more prestigious companies and such but, my point is, my situation is pretty much the worst case scenario for a M&T student.</p>

<p>Yes, they accept around 50 students each year. Sometimes a little less, sometimes a bit more. Depends on the applicant pool. They usually fill any remaining spaces with Wharton/Engineering transfers.</p>

<p>It seems like quite a few people in my year went into consulting/venture cap/hedge fund type stuff. At least two are heading to Microsoft. A handful are staying an extra year to complete a master's. I haven't really kept up with what everybody is doing though so my info is somewhat incomplete.</p>

<p>Anyway, I really ought to head to bed now and I doubt I'll be checking this site again so I encourage you to go to the source!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.upenn.edu/fisher/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.upenn.edu/fisher/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Email Prof Hamilton/Weber (they're really cool) or Lea, who's really nice, and they could probably recommend a student or two who can give you more current info. I'd say go for Lea if you're nervous about emailing a prof... Just say that you're thinking of applying and you want to speak to some current M&T students about their experiences etc. Most M&Ts are pretty frank about things.</p>

<p>Last note: The job prospects, the prestige, the professors are all great but the best part of the program is the people you will meet. My closest friends at Penn are all M&Ters.</p>

<p>My roommates (and close friends) were all College kids though. Hmm. Not sure what that says. =P</p>