<p>hey guys,</p>
<p>I have a quick question about Penn admissions. I'm thinking about applying to the jerome fisher program ED and have wharton as my secondary choice. Say, I get rejected from M&T but get accepted to wharton, am I now obligated to matriculate to wharton? in other words, when I apply ED to m&t, does that mean I'm also applying to wharton ED? This is gonna be a big factor for whether or not I'm doing ED or not, so any input would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Yes. If you get rejected by M&T ED but accepted to Wharton, you’ll be required by the ED agreement to attend.</p>
<p>ok, thanks for the quick answer.</p>
<p>Another question. Would it then be almost impossible to be admitted to jerome fisher RD? The thing is, if I can’t get into the m&t program, I would rather give myself a shot at some other schools that offer the biz/engineering undergrad mix than to have to fully commit to wharton if I do get accepted there. What percentage of m&t students are accepted ED? and does ED really give you THAT much of an advantage?</p>
<p>None of us on this forum will be able to give you an accurate answer regarding what percentage of M&T students are accepted ED, as the admission statistics for each individual school/program are not published. The number for the university as a whole, however, can be found in the link below.</p>
<p>[Penn</a> Admissions: Incoming Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/]Penn”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/profile/)</p>
<p>As you can see yourself, for the entire UPenn, 1319/3845 = 34.3% of the admits were accepted under ED last year. And the acceptance rate of 34.3% for ED is significant higher than that for RD, which is merely (3845-1319)/(26939-3851) = 10.9%</p>
<p>“34.3% of the admits were accepted under ED last year”</p>
<p>This is much different than saying that ED had a 34.3% acceptance rate. There could have been a million ED applicants with 1/3 of UPenn’s class taken from that pool. There could also have been exactly 34.3% of UPenn’s class size applying ED which had a 100% acceptance rate. It depends on the number of ED applicants and the number of students accepted.</p>
<p>So the 34.3% and 10.9% compares apples to oranges. </p>
<p>^^That was just for future reference. The actual numbers (14.3% RD, 31.2% ED) are not much different, but I’m just sayin’.</p>
<p>From what I’ve heard, as a whole, Jerome Fisher gets close to a thousand applicants vying for 40-50 spots. You can do the math (and if you can’t, that is 4-5% acceptance rate). Now, keeping in mind that it is self-selecting and the ED rate is much higher than the RD rate, I will go out on a limb and say that the RD rate is close to 2 or 3%. The difference is marginal. Nevertheless, there are many people who just apply to Penn/Wharton and tick the Jerome Fisher box for the hell of it to test their luck, knowing full well that it doesn’t affect their chances for their secondary choice.</p>
<p>@RustGust </p>
<p>Please read my post more carefully and then reply. If you actually bothered to click on the link I provided, you’ll see that the percentage of admits taken from ED (1319/3845) and the ED acceptance rate (1319/3851) happened to be the same, which is 34.3%. I have no idea where you got your ‘actual numbers’ as they contradict those on Penn’s official website.</p>
<p>If you do apply for M&T ED, you can check off a box that lets you decide if you want to apply ED to your backup school as well. If you don’t check that box off, and say you list Wharton as your backup and you get accepted to Wharton ED but rejected from M&T, it would not be binding.</p>
<p>^ There’s no way to list any school as your back-up without checking the box</p>
<p>“If you are not selected for the Jerome Fisher Program in Management and Technology and would like to be considered for a single-degree program, please indicate which program below:”</p>
<p>you can then choose your major and school that you want to apply to.</p>
<p>and at the end, it says:</p>
<p>“Do you want to be considered as an Early Decision candidate for the single-degree option you have indicated?”</p>
<p>^ I see. My bad for missing out that part =P</p>
<p>@mathematicism</p>
<p>I got the numbers from the link you have.</p>