Jesuit Rankings

<p>Jesuit schools such as Detriot, St. Louis and Marquette admitted women early by Catholic standards as did non Jesuit schools DePaul and Duquesne.</p>

<p>Le Moyne College in Syracuse, New York is also a Jesuit institution.</p>

<p>Georgetown and Holy Cross have the oldest academic tradition among Jesuit schools while Notre Dame is the best Catholic school. ND and HC have 2 of the best alumni networks and large endowments.</p>

<p>"oldest academic tradition among Jesuit schools." What does THAT mean?</p>

<p>Fordham goes back to 1841. Say again?</p>

<p>And I thought thought that St. Louis University claimed to be the oldest Jesuit Institution. Whatever.</p>

<p>Oldest Jesuit university west of the Mississippi.</p>

<p>I think St. Louis U is the oldest college of any type west of the Mississippi.</p>

<p>Thanks. I knew it was something like that. Its a beautiful school and its a great place to go to college.</p>

<p>Considering I attend a Jesuit high school, I almost felt obliged to apply to at least one Jesuit university. I was interested in SLU for a while. I never visited, but I was intrigued when they visited my school. They seemed like a decent school with the type of people I'd like being around. In the end, though, I decided that it was too far from home and applied to Marquette as my Jesuit university of choice.</p>

<p>Good for you Handyandy. Marquette and St. Louis U are very similar and offer some of the same benefits. Saint Louis U has a unique aviation school and flight training and they are number one in the country on nutrition science. They are building a new 17,000 seat basketball arena as well. </p>

<p>But Marquette is a great school. Good luck!</p>

<p>p.s., why just one Jesuit school application? I know a kid who went to Creighton Prep who is now at Fordham.</p>

<p>I go to Creighton Prep as well catfishin, and many/most of the students here end up attending Jesuit universities. Georgetown, Fordham, Marquette, SLU, Creighton, and Rockhurst are big here, though the rest do get people that apply every year.</p>

<p>The College of the Holy Cross is the sole Catholic and Jesuit representative of "47" LAC participating institutions in the Thomas J. Watson Fellowship program. The</a> Watson Fellowship</p>

<p>Well, I didn't want to apply to the competitive Jesuit schools Georgetown or BC because neither have engineering schools. While I'm not 100% sure that's what I want to major in, I'm very interested in it. I didn't want to rule out such a possibility by going to either of those. I know they have their 3-2 programs and such, but still.</p>

<p>I'm a pretty strong student with good scores, etc. While Jesuit schools are good schools, I am applying to a few rather competitive schools and I feel confident I'll be accepted to at least one of them. For me, it seemed like a smart idea to apply to a Jesuit school as a safety (obviously BC/Gtown don't apply). I knew going to a Jesuit high school would make the admissions process rather easy plus it would get me bonus scholarship consideration should my college choice come down to a safety school.</p>

<p>So I researched the schools that were relatively close: Detroit Mercy, John Carroll, Xavier, Loyola Chicago, Marquette, SLU, and Loyola Maryland. For the reasons I didn't apply to BC or Gtown, I could rule quite a few of those off my list. Really, I was left with Marquette or SLU. The further into my college search I went, the more I realized I don't want to be all that far away from home. Toledo, Ohio to St. Louis is either a flight or a 9-10 hour drive. That's quite a ways, whereas Marquette is only about 6 hours.</p>

<p>"15" Catholic schools are included among the "136" U.S. colleges reviewed in Choosing the Right College 2008 - 2009: The Whole Truth about America's Top Schools. <a href="http://www.isi.org/books/content/258ftoc.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.isi.org/books/content/258ftoc.pdf&lt;/a> The Jesuit (BC, Fordham, Georgetown, Gonzaga & Holy Cross); non-Jesuit (Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall & Villanova); and non-Jesuit and Newman Guide recommended (C.U.A., Christendom College, U. of Dallas, Franciscan U. of Steubenville, Thomas Aquinas College & Thomas More College of Liberal Arts).</p>

<p>Well...I dont want to get into a discussion about excluding any Jesuit college....even if for "distance" reasons. And I would never say anything bad about Marquette. In fact, I think you should apply to BOTH Marquette and SLU and see which one offers you the best deal...and in the meantime, do your homework on the programs and anything else that matters to you in the "fit" category. Both SLU and Marquette are very strong basketball schools. I have never driven from Toledo to St. Louis so I dont know if your estimate is accurate or not, though Mapquest would give you a good idea. I can just tell you that SLU is a great school in a great location, in a great city and its a gorgeous campus, with super programs.....and a flight school to boot. But you go where you feel the best fit. Just dont limit your options too narrowly. The time to do that is in April when you have collected all your acceptance letter and you have to pick one as your final choice.</p>

<p>The Gothic Cathedral on the campus of St. Louis University is also stunning!</p>

<p>My D has applied to both. They are both wonderful schools. SLU is VERY generous with merit aid.</p>

<p>I am a complete novice to this topic of Jesuit education so please excuse any ignorance that I may express. </p>

<p>Arguing from first principles, it appears that not all Jesuit colleges and universities are created equal. This has nothing to do with size, location, LAC versus University etc. It has everything to do with the degree of "Jesuitness" within a particular college or university, especially in light of the dwindling number of Jesuits active in the US. There are several questions that need to be answered in this regard:</p>

<p>How many Jesuits as a percentage of the faculty teach in the college?</p>

<p>What percentage of Jesuits teach the courses in religion and philosophy?</p>

<p>What percentage of faculty and administrative leadership positions are held by Jesuits?</p>

<p>Do Jesuits hold the principle decision rights regarding the curriculum and the social life of the institution? </p>

<p>Is there a core curriculum, like the trivium quadrivium in place or is the curriculum so watered down as to be, at best, simply a set of distribution requirements with a couple of "religious studies" courses tacked on?</p>

<p>What is the strength of the classic departments and are there active Jesuit scholars in it?</p>

<p>What percentage of the students attend daily mass?</p>

<p>What processes are in place for actively addressing the spiritual life of students as outlined here? Characteristics</a> of Jesuit Education</p>

<p>What percentages of the students are engaged in the spiritual exercises laid down by St. Ignatius?</p>

<p>Is the college providing intellectual leadership to the greater community of Jesuit Colleges and Universities? If so, in what ways?</p>

<p>I think we need to answer these questions before we engage in the silly process of rankings. My sense, unfortunately, is that many Jesuit schools are "Jesuit" today in name only, that there is a thin veneer, a palimpsest, if you will, of "Jesuitness" in its colleges and universities. At worst, some are trading off of this veneer. Georgetown comes to mind. And many discussants on this post appear to be only interested in the veneer of a Jesuit education and not in the real deal. </p>

<p>Below is nice piece on Jesuit education.</p>

<p>Jesuits</a> and Higher Education: A primer</p>

<p>I do get the feeling that Jesuit universities (from those I visited) are shrugging off their Jesuit-ness, and even their Catholicity. That irked me the wrong way. It seemed like the attitude regarding religion was, "It's here, somewhere, if you can find it, but take care of it yourself." I guess it's just that if I'm applying to a religious school, I expect the religion to be a big part of it. Don't use "Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam" as your motto just because it rhymes.</p>

<p>There have in fact been some rather egregious errors and omissions at several prominent, historic, Jesuit and non-Jesuit Catholic colleges and universities regarding Catholic doctrine that will not be specifically addressed here. Today's Catholic students and families may want to give serious consideration to the Catholic University of America in Washington D.C., Mount St. Mary's University in Emmitsburg, MD (the nation's second oldest Catholic college) and the other Catholic colleges reviewed in the just released Newman Guide to Choosing a Catholic College. The</a> Newman Guide to Choosing a Catholic College > Home</p>