<p>How do JHU grads fare in wall street recruiting, in roles like Ibanking?
Also, how feasible is to to be an Economics major w/ premed, vs a BME major w/ premed? I'm not asking how easy it is- I hate the easy way out. Just, is it possible to get a good enough GPA to either go to a top med school OR a top firm?</p>
<p>Thanks y'all
I like Dartmouth cause of the flexibility it provides, idk about JHU
I've always lived near Homewood though, and I have a strong...uh...loyalty? I guess? to it.</p>
<p>I’ll tell you right off the bat: if you want to work at a prestigious Wall Street bank, don’t come to JHU. The big banks do not recruit here, simple as that. Among people I know with jobs at Goldman, Morgan Stanley, Citi from JHU (I’m in this boat), all had some kind of personal connection. That isn’t to say it’s impossible, but it’s very difficult. That said, plenty of people go from JHU to top business schools and from there go to Wall Street.</p>
<p>The high school I go to (near JHU) has tremendous networking in Wall Street and politics, and equally tremendous alumni loyalty. Regardless, I am definitely aiming to go to grad school. Would a JHU candidate have a strong chance to get into Wharton, Harvard, UVA, or other top level business schools? Am I correct in thinking that in business, unlike medicine, prestige has a MAJOR role?</p>
<p>JHU is a semi-target, primarily because of its prestige in academia and quality of education. Very few banks recruit, so if you want to go straight to IB don’t go to Hopkins. However, I am somewhat interested in IB and I am heading into JHU, but I’m also interested in IR/Neuroscience and other majors. If I was deadset on IB (which I don’t know if you can/should be as a high schooler) I wouldn’t be going to Hopkins. </p>
<p>Yes, to Wall Street, moreso than almost anywhere else, prestige is very important (it is much easier to get an interview from a top target (ie. Wharton, Harvard, Princeton, etc.) than from a non-target (stage flagship etc.)). </p>
<p>Quite honestly though, I don’t think doing IB is necessarily a good choice to decide on early in life, and looking at what Hopkins offers, there are plenty of other opportunities in all sorts of fields. But, to each their own.</p>
<p>Dartmouth has a great rep on the street and tons of alumni. Not so much for Hopkins, but both are great schools (just focused on somewhat different things).</p>
<p>Thanks a ton for that detailed answer. I do NOT want to enter the job market fresh out of college, I like academia and security too much for that haha. I will go on to med school (probably) or -maybe- business school, and then do ibanking. I know its not something most people like to decide early, but the long hours, mathematical and social savvy necessary, and high competition appeal to me (as does the $$$). You missed one of my questions though, which is probably very important since I know that JHU grads dont do well in Wall Street placement fresh off the college boat-
How do JHU grads fare in business school admissions, especially in the top tier schools? Will a BME/Neuro major w/ a Management minor do well?</p>
<p>Alright. Thanks for that info.
I just want to point out that the JHU board, moreso than other boards on CC, is very prompt with its answers, and it maintains an air of non-snootiness and honesty.</p>
<p>Is “cheating”, i.e. stealing books, rampant at JHU? I don’t believe so, but i just want to debunk that myth. How hard is it to get to parties at Loyola and Towson, and is it difficult to go to the Towson mall without a car? I see Hopkins kids at the Barnes and Nobles there on Friday nights a lot, on their way to the pub. Does this imply that JHU runs a 'work hard, play hard" type thing, where kids work diligently Sunday afternoon to Friday afternoon, and chill Friday night and Saturday?</p>
<p>Is JHU collaboratively competitive? I thrive on competition, but I hate kids who won’t help out others to boost their own standing.</p>
<p>FreeFly, I’ll be honest in saying that I applied to Dartmouth and was rejected. I would have taken Dartmouth over Hopkins for my particular path I imagined myself. However, now that I am “in” the Hopkins community, I have come to see some of the excellent opportunities Hopkins has, particular its strengths in research and a few great one-of-a-kind programs. (SAIS MA etc.) It is a great school with tons to offer those who search for it.</p>
<p>If you want the “easy” way to IB or other professional jobs, Dartmouth is the way to go. At Hopkins it’s doable, but (most probably) a lot harder. However, Hopkins pre-med is obviously world class and I would take it over Dartmouth any day. It’s all in what you want, and particularly how you see yourself doing at the schools. Do well at either (or any Top 30 school) and you will be fine.</p>
<p>Also , in response to your comment about not working immediately after graduation, it is almost never the case that this works out (unless you are doing med/law school or getting your phd). The usual track is undergrad —> IB —> PE —> MBA —> PE. Top schools can get you into PE out of undergrad if you are good / lucky, but almost no one gets their MBA straight out of undergrad. </p>
<p>I would be careful in looking for “security,” as a lot of people these days are looking back to academia for security, and that means the value, and thus the inherent secureness as a degree provides, is diminished. Hiding in academia is never a good idea, but it is a great way to build the necessary skills needed if you know why you are going to school and what specifically you are trying to accomplish.</p>
<p>Saying that working in academia provides security is absurd. Academia is incredibly competitive and it is very difficult just to get a job at a top school, let alone get tenure. Academia is “secure” in the sense that it’s 2-6 years (depending on your program) that you avoid having to look for a job. That said, you are potentially foregoing a lot of money by going into academia.</p>
<p>While Hopkins doesn’t do particularly well in placing students directly into investment banks, it does well getting students into grad school. As you can see in my “location”, Hopkins got me to Princeton (which has a pretty good Wall Street connection).</p>