<p>If it came down to Johns Hopkins University and Georgetown, which university would you choose?</p>
<p>I was pretty sure I was going to JHU in a couple of months, but I recently got off the waitlist for Georgetown, and I don't know what to do! I am planning to major in something along the lines of International Relations.</p>
<p>Any sort of help would be appreciated. Thank guys!</p>
<p>Georgetown.For the bball games and social life. also gtown is best in intl rel</p>
<p>International Relations...Hmmm...Probably Georgetown.</p>
<p>International Relations: Georgetown; think of the interactions with all the diplomat you can get in Washington DC.</p>
<p>JHU is rumored to have a terrible social scene. Go with Georgetown and you won't regret it (Also, Georgetown is more prestigious for Intl. Relations).</p>
<p>Thanks guys! Just a random question: if i wasn't majoring in International Relations, would Georgetown still be the better choice?</p>
<p>I think Georgetown would be a better choice for humanities -- JH would be better if you were science/research oriented.</p>
<p>I wonder what some of you base your opinions on? Georgetown is better than Hopkins in humanities? I don't care what ratings you look at--they generally are not even close. Just as an example, US News has Hopkins #9 in English. Georgetown is not ranked (the mag only ranked the top 89 programs). History--JHU is #9, GT is #32. I can't find a field where GT tops Hopkins.</p>
<p>In IR--They are about equal.</p>
<p>I agree with katliamom</p>
<p>Everyone is entitled to an opinion. It just that its more useful when an opinion is based on something other than gut feeling.</p>
<p>Interesting ratings, Bonanza. It could be that JHU has really pumped up its humanities and that my advice is dated. The school describes itself as "World leader in research and education in medicine, public health, the arts, sciences, and engineering " Meantime Georgetown, with its educating-the-whole-person Jesuit ideal and heavy emphasis on philosophy, certainly presents itself as more humanities-oriented.</p>
<p>Georgetown--no doubt in my mind that Georgetown is tops for International Relation. Plus Washington internships will help you!</p>
<p>Bonanza, U.S. News clearly means **** when a school is cutthroat competitive, socially limited, and unbalanced in terms of academics.</p>
<p>Rankings are arbitrary, biased, and unreliable.</p>
<p>Georgetown for sure. Internships abound, D.C. is a metropolitan blessing, and the Jesuit tradition of scholarly excellence will help guide you along.</p>
<p>kwu, are you serious? Cutthroat, socially limited and unbalanced? Are you serious? Top medicine, music (Peabody), English, History, Political Theory, Biology, French Language, International relations (SAIS and otherwise), well regarded mathematics (Publish the American Journal of Mathematics), Economics (small but incredibly productive faculty), Public Health, top writing seminars, neuroscience. The list goes on.</p>
<p>Unbalanced indeed.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins has a tremendous number of programs ranked in the top ten in the nation. Weakness in any program at JHopkins is kinda weird...</p>
<p>Humanities (by Chronicle 2007/2006)</p>
<p>Classics and Classical Languages** #8**
European Studies #3
French Language and Literature #5
History #2<a href="2006">/B</a>
Italian Language and Literature **#4
Spanish Language and Literature #4
Art History *#1<a href="2006">/B</a>
East Asian Langues and Cultures *#5<a href="2006">/B</a>
English *#5 <a href="2006">/B</a>
Near and Middle Eastern Studies *#6<a href="2006">/B</a></p>
<p>International Affairs and Development - #2</p>
<p>Go to Georgetown for undergrad International Relations. Go to Johns Hopkins SAIS for Graduate international Relations.</p>
<p>**Johns Hopkins SAIS **was ranked #1 terminal masters international relations program in the nation. It is widely considered among the best with Columbia's SIPA, and Princeton's WSG to be among the best in the nation when it comes to international relations IR. SAIS is also centrally located in Washington D.C. great access to internships and the political center of our nation.</p>
<p>GTown for IR, JHU for (almost) anything else basically.</p>
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<p>Baseless accusations without presenting actual reliable information doesn't really help your case about Hopkin's cutthroat environment, limited social experience, and unbalanced in terms of academics.</p>
<p>We have just shown you that among the many programs here at Hopkins, especially the Humanities ones are among the top ten in the nation.</p>
<p>Social life at Hopkins is what you make of it. It is senseless to believe with a population of nearly 4,600 undergrads that nearly all inactive in their pursuits of extracurricular activities, extra time here or there to have fun. Like all thing in life, Hopkins students must work hard and find the things they want. Simply put, life won't simply give things to you, its not a free get out of jail card, things magically fall into your hand. If you want to have fun, you have to actually work and find it. You don't sit on your lazy ass all day and hope friends will come and meet you. Life is not that simple.</p>
<p>Georgetown for undergrad, Johns Hopkins for grad. Simply put that is like the dream path for many IR Majors.</p>
<p>Now if you want to major in anything else other than IR, Johns Hopkins is far more lenient and flexibe in that respect than Georgetown.</p>
<p>You are citing a myriad of statistics about JHU that clearly demonstrate that it is the best place to go if one is indeed interested in majoring is obscure fields such as history, the classics, and romance languages. Your information isn't actually reliable either.</p>
<p>I base my "baseless accusations"--opinion, please--off of opinions that I have gathered from posters on this very forum, current students, and alumni. Opinion is opinion, of course. You can fight it and shut it out with numbers, but you need the right ones.</p>
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I think Georgetown would be a better choice for humanities -- JH would be better if you were science/research oriented.
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Bonanza, U.S. News clearly means **** when a school is cutthroat competitive, socially limited, and unbalanced in terms of academics.
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<p>I am citing a myriad of statistics to assert one point and one point only.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins a well balanced school with respect to science and humanities.</p>
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I base my "baseless accusations"--opinion, please--off of opinions that I have gathered from posters on this very forum, current students, and alumni. Opinion is opinion, of course. You can fight it and shut it out with numbers, but you need the right ones.
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<p>So your saying opinion is more credible than cold hard facts from members of this forum that actually attend Hopkins? I'm not even bias to that fact that the OP should attend Georgetown. I agree, Georgetown in a better school for IR. Am I in fact promoting Hopkins more than I should be? I'm merely correcting myth and separating the whats fact and whats not.</p>
<p>Your disrespect for the humanities is also humorous. Show more respect next time, no one was ever bashing you. Just calm down and taken a chill pill.</p>
<p>Next time, if there is some information that you do not like or do not agree with, rather than suppressing it and shutting it down, provide better evidence next time. Just a nice tip for next time you disagree on something you feel is correct.</p>
<p>What disrespect for the humanities? I am going to attend a liberal arts college, and I plan to double major in Economics and Art History. Romance languages are rare choices at top national universities.</p>
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they generally are not even close...I can't find a field where GT tops Hopkins.
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<p>This is what irked me, and I was responding to this. Based on opinion.</p>
<p>Fact leaves no room for reasonable doubt. Rankings are based on opinion, too, if you'll recall, and they therefore cannot be considered "cold hard facts."</p>
<p>I am not trying to "suppress" you or "shut" you "down. Those are my words, by the way: I like how you took my observation of you and used it against me--clever.</p>
<p>Both schools are excellent, but Georgetown offers a better balance of all those factors which define a good college: exceptional programs in areas relative to one's interest, location, aesthetic beauty, cultural and internship opportunities, a thriving social life (if one chooses to actively pursue one, as you say). In my opinion. And, it all comes down to opinion.</p>