<p>n days ago I posted a message asking question about the double degree program, and thanks to the CC time wrap it is not here anymore</p>
<p>forturnately CC sent me emails of the replies (and they're excellent ones), so I post them here again, b/c I think someone might find it helpful</p>
<p>from edad:</p>
<p>It is unlikely that any double degree students will be on this forum. If
another applicant responds, you will not be "competing" directly with them. You
will need to compete with all applicants for admission at JHU and at Peabody.
In addition I believe you will need to be accepted by both campuses as a double
degree student. At Peabody, you will audition along with all applicants to the
conservatory. Perhaps AdmissionsDaniel will give his opinion, but I suspect
for JHU Homewood admission, your music abilities will give you an edge over an
otherwise academically equal candidate. Regardless, you need to be a strong
candidate.</p>
<p>To graduate with a dd, you will need to meet the requirements for each degree.
You can research these specific requirements online. You can get additional
information by contacting the appropriate department at JHU and admissions or
the dean's office at Peabody. If you have not done so, begin by reading the
"articles" on the Peabody admissions webpage.</p>
<p>The difficulty of completing a dd will depend on your motivation and abilities.
There is a special dd program which will give you an idea of the effort
required. I am referring to the dd program at Peabody in recording arts and
music performance. This link will illustrate the requirements:
<a href="http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/1301%5B/url%5D">http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/1301</a>. You would need to complete well over 20
credits/semester for 5 years. This program is rigorous but you can anticipate 5
years for any dd program.</p>
<p>Again, you need to ask your questions at both campuses. For questions related
to the dd, you will get the most help and support at Peabody.</p>
<p>from Shelly147:</p>
<p>I'm currently a student at Hopkins, doing a music minor, but I know a number of
double degree students. (I ride the shuttle between campuses with them all the
time!)</p>
<p>My friend, who's a trumpet player, was in the situation where he was accepted to
both campuses, but not into the double degree program. It's such a difficult
program that each candidate, once accepted to both schools, is evaluated for
their ability to go through the rigorous program. I'm not positive exactly what
this is based on- It's probably a combination of the three things you mentioned
(musical ability, academic ability, motivation). For example, if you were a
trumpet player who was accepted to the conservatory, there's an expectation that
you are going to be practicing a whole lot as a conservatory student. If you're
accepted as a double degree student, though, you don't have as much time to
devote exclusively to music, so you'll have less practice time than other people
who are just attending Peabody. This probably means that you need to be at the
top of the "musical ability" stack compared to the other trumpets so that you
don't end up falling behind everyone to som!
e large degree. The same applies to your academics.</p>
<p>Double degree students have the choice to live either at Homewood or at
Peabody. I think most of them decide to live around Peabody, though, because
it's easier to take the shuttle down a set number of times a day to attend your
classes at Homewood than it is to live at Homewood and take the shuttle to
Peabody for EVERY rehearsal, the times of which aren't as rigid (rehearsals go
over time), and then if you get involved with student ensembles (a quartet or
something), it's easier to arrange rehearsals if you live around there and don't
have to plan in a bus ride. </p>
<p>DD students do have interaction with the students on both campuses, but it
really depends mostly on where you live and what you choose to participate in. I
think that most DD students would agree that the people they have the most
interaction with are other DD students- they're always riding the shuttles
together, and they can commisserate with each other ("Good lord, I'm taking 31
credits this semester! I'm going to die!" "Hey, me too!"). I knew a DD student,
who lived around Peabody, very well, because he was involved with the theater
program over at Hopkins. It just depends on how you structure your life there.</p>
<p>I'm not really sure how much suppport they get from, say, the registrar, but
honestly, I think the amount to make your schedule work is "Not that much".
Class times are set based on the 4,000 students attending Hopkins, and the 12 DD
kids aren't going to have much influence on this. As it says on the double
degree web site, you're going to have to make choices- you have a rehearsal and
a lab at the same time, what do you do?</p>
<p>"These are not programs for the faint of heart. The two schools involved usually
do not structure their schedules in the same way, so there are typically
conflicts when, for instance, orchestra rehearsals are scheduled at the same
time as the advanced bio labs. You get the idea. A little creativity on the part
of the student helps, and a mild degree of frustration can also be expected. "<br>
(from <a href="http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/692%5B/url%5D">http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/692</a> ) </p>
<p>(ps...the frustration will probably be more than mild)</p>
<p>Hope this helps a little</p>
<p>from edad (again):</p>
<p>I may be able to add a little to the excellent input from Shelly. If you do a
Peabody/Homewood double degree, I recommend you live at Peabody for the reasons
Shelly mentioned. It will be much more convenient for access to practice rooms
and for evening and weekend rehearsals and events. It also makes sense to
concentrate more on music for the first couple of years while you are getting
past the introductory courses at Homewood. The downside is the food. The food
at Peabody is really gross.</p>
<p>A double degree student will have advising on both campuses. You can expect a
lot of problems with scheduling. Homewood seems to work mainly on a
Monday-Thursday schedule which makes scheduling even more difficult.</p>
<p>Regarding admissions, competition at the conservatory can vary somewhat from
year to year, depending on your specific instrument. Generally, Peabody makes
offers to more than half of the applicants and only about 1/3 of those enroll.
Most of the kids auditioning for conservatories audition at quite a few places
so the 1/3 yield is pretty good. Homewood admissions are more of a mystery to
me. JHU claims that they try to look beyond statistics and consider the
individual in toto. I would have to agree. My D was accepted with very modest
SAT scores.</p>
<p>In you enroll as a JHU Homewood student, you have access to the Peabody courses
and lessons. Even for a conservatory student, individual lessons are 1 hr/week.
You will probably not have much or any playing opportunity at Peabody. It is
unlikely that you would be at an acceptable level. There are a playing
opportunities at Homewood. Hopefully you will get more detailed information
than I have. </p>
<p>If you are motivated to be accepted into the conservatory, I hope your are
putting in some practice time. My D was late in deciding to apply to
conservatories and had to do a lot of catch up. Before auditions, she was
playing about 30 hours/week.</p>
<p>Thanks for all those informations; they really help a lot.</p>
<p>I just wonder about getting teacher in Peabody if I am not accepted into the DD program. I heard that (for piano) there is only one (or two?) teacher available to JHU students.</p>
<p>For the last few weeks I was playing around 25-30 hr/wk, but am having a little rest now with some chamber music since my next auditions are a month later : )</p>
<p>That is great you saved those messages - as a number of people were disappointed that the Peabody / Dual Degree discussion thread had been lost.</p>
<p>Good job thzxcyl!</p>