JHU's Strong points !?

<p>What are the best programs at JHU? I've heard that it's very good for people interested in science, is that so? I might major in biology (though I like poli sci too) and definitely am going to go pre-med. Is JHU a good school to go to for those planning on applying to med school in the future? </p>

<p>Let me know!</p>

<p>JHU has the highest percentage of acceptances to Med School - ~95% if I'm not mistaken, which is double that of Harvard's. Also 80% of their graduates get graduate degrees within 10 years. They're also ranked #1 in Enviornmental Engineering and Public Health Studies, and they have a very strong Biology (or any science) program.</p>

<p>Don't forget it's #1 in BME too!!</p>

<p>Actually, Havard's medical school placement rate has been about 90%. The only problem with JHU (there aren't many :)) is that A LOT of people are pre-med. JHU has awesome resources as well as competition, so expect to take a lot iniative if you want to succeed in pre-med! Like Harvard, Duke, WuStL, Cornell, etc., Hopkins has a reputation for "weeding out" pre-med students. I've been told you have to be prepared to fight for your (deflated) GPA, although I don't know how accurate that is. JHU has one of the best medical schools in the world, so you can't do much better. Almost all of the sciences are very strong, as are most of the humanities (98% placement into law school). The biology program is not as popular (or competitive!) as biomedical engineering with pre-med students, although it's definitely the second most popular science major. In short, JHU has awesome science programs, a world-renowned hospital and medical school, a relatively small size...you can't do much better for pre-med. </p>

<p>FYI, Political science is also strong, as is international relations. </p>

<p>See this [url=<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=48881%5Dthread%5B/url"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=48881]thread[/url&lt;/a&gt;] for a list of JHU's strongest programs.</p>

<p>i went to a day for admitted students today and i loved the school. I want to be a bio major and i liked it because the research opportunities seem unending. My big problem is that they are almost entirely focused on microbiology and cellular biology. They have 0 evolutionary or zoology classes. And there may be one anatomy physiology and one plant physiology class. But there are very few macrobiological programs which is my favorite part about biology. If they had these classes no doubt in mind i would go there.</p>

<p>Everyone keeps saying there aren't evolutionary classes - look on the course list, Professor Teaford (who is incredible) teaches Evolutionary Biology and Biological Anthropology!</p>

<p>yeah but that's two classes and it's not very indepth. At cornell they must have 30 - 50 in depth classes on evolutionary or botanical or animal classes, there are no classes at hopkins like mammalian physiology, just real real general ones and that's not what i'm looking for</p>

<p>biophysics rox my sox, and seriously, how many schools have a biophysics program?</p>

<p>Not to say that JHU is doing this, but when a school claims 95% acceptance into Med and Law schools, do we really know what is actually happening along the way, and behind the scenes.....e.g. how many students are eliminated and don't even get to the application process, or they are not given the same resources or encouragement as the stronger candidates, just so the sure bets will be applying?</p>

<p>On another thread I heard that USCarolina and PSU's Shreyers program also have 100% MED acceptance rate.</p>

<p>See <a href="http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/masian.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/masian.htm&lt;/a>
In 2004, JHU produces 263 applicants (~1000 students) with 97% acceptance rate. Cornell had 429 applicants (~3000 students) with 77% acceptance rate. (<a href="http://www.career.cornell.edu/HealthCareers/acceptedApplied.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.cornell.edu/HealthCareers/acceptedApplied.html&lt;/a&gt;)
Not sure which school eliminates more applicants.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.mdapplicants.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.mdapplicants.com&lt;/a> copied that from another thread, gives a little different spin on just looking at percentages</p>

<p>None of these sites gives a really clear picture. One site just lists the # of Asians applying to Med School., and the other tells you how many applicants actually got into a particular Med school.</p>

<p>Okaythis is from a discussion on the Admissions Forum:</p>

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Schools that say they have a 90% acceptance rate only write recommendations for kids they think have a good chance of getting in. Like all medical schools ask for a recommendation from your schools premed advisor (if they have one) Certain schools wont give you one (and essentially you cant even apply) if they dont think you will get in. Thats why they have such high acceptance rates.

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<p>Look closer at the site. You can also search by undergraduate school.</p>

<p>chocoholic,
The link gives you total # of applicants (not just Asians) at each undergraduate school. You can backward link to find # of applicants for other races or click on "home" to access AAMC homepage that provides more data. You can find acceptance rate at individual school, e.g.,
<a href="http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.htm&lt;/a>
<a href="http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/2004.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://web.princeton.edu/sites/hpa/2004.pdf&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/gradprof/healthprof/premed/Premedical_Opportunities.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/gradprof/healthprof/premed/Premedical_Opportunities.htm&lt;/a>
<a href="http://www.career.cornell.edu/HealthCareers/acceptedApplied.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.cornell.edu/HealthCareers/acceptedApplied.html&lt;/a>
Given total # of applicants and acceptance rate, you can compute the total # of accepted MED students. You might consider the size of school and the MED # for your school choice.
I personally would like to choose schools such as Harvard, Princeton, JHU that have >90% acceptance rate and reasonable MED # even if they discourage disqualified students to apply (Do you have evidence for this?) rather than schools that have below national average (50%) acceptance rate. Because I know that if I am qualified to apply, I have 90% probability to get in a medical school.</p>

<p>does anyone know what percent of jhu undergrad who apply to jhu med get in? do you think they'd be anywhere near more lenient towards you in acceptance to the med school if you went to the undergrad? or do you think it'll be harder b/c the undergrad at JHU is as "competitive" as i hear and that they'll probably be a lot of applications to the med school from the undergrad?</p>

<p>it's definitely 90+%. Tour guide said 92~93% I think.</p>

<p>what other schools have great pre-med programs ? better or similar to JHU's?
and how is Georgetown viewed in this "science" field...especially pre-med</p>

<p>best_wr...is that in response to my question about jhu undergrad getting into jhu med? lol b/c that gives me hope if so!</p>

<p>Okay, I know what they say on the tours, open houses, and special admitted students days, and I was also impressed to hear that JHU has 95% acceptance rates to Med.School and Law School. But there is something else going on behind the scenes. The process for these applications involves getting recommendation letters from your advisor, and I'm not talking about the kind of letter you get as a H.S. Senior, where no teacher turns you down. This is the stage at which the decimation occurs, and students who are not "the best" are not given these letters, and are steered in other directions. At that point, you pretty much would have to choose another path.</p>

<p>They will not write reco. letters for students who might bring down their acceptance rate down. Sad but true.</p>

<p>That's pretty scaring. I'll worry about that when I actually get there and start classes though. haha.</p>