<p>Johns Hopkins has been increasing the size of undergraduate student body (and faculty) and is admitting more high school seniors than ever. The acceptance rate rose from 29.9% (from last year) to close to 35%. </p>
<p>However, the quality & diversity of the applicant pool got better and the yield this past month was higher than expected. The MEDIAN SAT score for the Class of 2009 (people who sent in their deposits) is 1440 (compared to 1400 for the Class of 2008). The JHU class of 2009 is also the most racially, geographically and academically diverse ever.</p>
<p>If you have a strong interest in Johns Hopkins, definitely visit the campus. If you apply Early Decision, you increase your chances. JHU will admit mostly students scoring in the 2000-2400 range on the New SAT.</p>
<p>are you advertising for JHU? :)</p>
<p>Hopkins is the best school on the planet, go Barry for promoting!!!</p>
<p>Higher SAT does not equal a smarter class.</p>
<p>that's true uc_benz!</p>
<p>I'm a Hopkins fan!-- but they need to provide more info for BarryD to make this claim</p>
<p>BarryD: "Johns Hopkins has been increasing the size of undergraduate student body (and faculty) and is admitting more high school seniors than ever. The acceptance rate rose from 29.9% (from last year) to close to 35%."</p>
<p>Some truth to this claim, from the WSJ:</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins University, for example, received nearly 200 more applications this year than last year. But it has accepted over 700 students more than it did by this time last year. It's also increasing the number of wait-list spots -- to 2,000, up from 1,500 last year.
<a href="http://www.collegejournal.com/aidadmissions/newstrends/20050502-chaker.html?refresh=on%5B/url%5D">http://www.collegejournal.com/aidadmissions/newstrends/20050502-chaker.html?refresh=on</a></p>
<p>Last year they had:
Number of Applicants: 11,106
Students Admitted: 3,322
Admit Rate: 30%
Students Enrolled: 1,070
<a href="http://www.jhu.edu/news_info/statistics/%5B/url%5D">http://www.jhu.edu/news_info/statistics/</a></p>
<p>Therefore, if applications increased by 200 to 11,306 and they admitted 3909, their acceptance rate would have increased to 34.6%</p>
<p>I am surprised that they are anticipating a yield of 27.6% compared to 32.8% last year, even with more students applying to more schools.</p>
<p>what about truth to his other claim...that this is JHU's smartest class ever?? I don't think that there is proof to that.</p>
<p>I love JHU, no doubt! I wonder if they will really overenroll?</p>
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I don't agree. To the extent the SAT measures math and verbal aptitude, then the incoming JHU class (on average) is smarter than all previous classes taking the same type test. Whether the SAT predicts a particular student's grades is a separate question (irrelevant in this analysis) from whether the SAT measures a CHANGE in aptitude among a group of students. When limited to the question of whether the SAT I can accurately describe a group of students, it is clear to me that a higher average SAT for a similar group means that group is "smarter" than the group with the lower SAT average.</p>
<p>The SAT does not measure intelligence; it measures the ability to take a test. It is impossible to come to the conclusion that someone who scores a 1440 on the SAT is smarter than someone who scores a 1400.</p>
<p>To say that someone is smarter because of a higher SAT score and not because of potential grades is paradoxical. Obviously the smarter person is going to get better grades, so if you say that a higher SAT score=more intelligence then that also applies to grades. This is because "smart" is usually not an exclusive adjective, but it is defined by performance in an academic setting (which is measured by grades).</p>
<p>Actually the hardest worker with decent brains will get the best grades in most cases.</p>
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It is impossible to come to the conclusion that someone who scores a 1440 on the SAT is smarter than someone who scores a 1400.
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When comparing two people, you are probably right. But when comparing two large groups of people, you are wrong. If we define "smart" in terms of aptitude in math and verbal skills, few would dispute that students at Harvard (where the average SAT is very high) are smarter on average than students at Penn State (where the average SAT is lower). Undoubtedly there are some students at Penn State who are smarter than some students at Harvard, but when talking about GROUPS of students Penn State is not at the same level as is Harvard.</p>