<p>I'm an entering freshman at williams, trying for JP Morgan's honors program. I am a black male.</p>
<p>The website says that a 3.5 is required for the intership. But...a 3.5 is damn hard to get here. I don't doubt that I can do it, but,</p>
<p>do BB's consider top school's specialized grade distrbutions?</p>
<p>or do you absolutely need that 3.5?</p>
<p>It may explain why it is considered an honors program...now...why not shoot for it, you have everything to gain from it!</p>
<p>Remember that a 3.5 is the bare minimum to APPLY. It doesn't mean a 3.5 will qualify you for it because many more people can have higher than that. It's like how some scholarship programs say you need a minimum SAT of 1100 to apply. Applicants will not win that money with just a 1100.</p>
<p>They actually don't consider grade deflation as much as you would want them to. For example, you can have a 3.3 at UChicago (a solid GPA for a school like that), but it's still not as good as a 3.7 from [insert grade-inflated target school]. Majors, however, are considered a bit more. So if you're a math or engineering major, you can have a few tenths lower and still be a strong applicant. Some jobs officially have different cutoffs for math and engineering.</p>
<p>Hey! I'm also trying the JP Morgan Honors program. I understand you have to submit your resume to an address but I can't seem to find the deadline for summer '08.</p>
<p>According to this link, January 31 was the deadline for summer '06:
<a href="http://newhire.jpmorganchase.com/ba-summer/honors/%5B/url%5D">http://newhire.jpmorganchase.com/ba-summer/honors/</a></p>
<p>So, I'm assuming the deadline is January 31.</p>
<p>According to the website, recruiters visit campuses to do info sessions in the fall. Should recruiters visit, submit your resume at that time. However, if the recruiters don't visit your particular school, the window for e-mailing resumes is between Dec. 1 and Jan 15.</p>
<p>does anyone have a clue to how hard this program is?</p>
<p>Lol. If you're worried about not getting into JPM Honors, don't even worry about it. Not to put you down or anything, but its tough. I knew a 4.0 Wharton that didn't make it, a 3.9 H that interned at BS frosh year that didn't make it. Both didn't even get interviews. I've heard that they take from 15-25 people total, versus maybe 50-75 during SA/FT. So its definetly tough, and you've got to have a stellar resume.</p>
<p>JPM Honors isn't the only sophomore rotational program out there. UBS has one, Goldman Sachs has one (though you can't apply to it), MS has one, Citigroup, BofA (they pay a ton), etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>I'm definetly applying to that, but I'm also applying to SA positions this summer (i have enough credits to have junior standing, but this is my second year.) Just to give you a background, I come from a semi-target (non-Ivy), 4.0 GPA, boutique bank experience. To be honest, I don't really think I've even got a shot for one of these soph. programs.</p>
<p>I think its fairly easier to get a position through SA than through one of these Soph programs. I remember reading about one of these programs; don't remember which bank, but had 10 acceptances to their Soph. program, then extended offers to those ten for SA, then extended offers for FT. All, of course, were accepted.</p>
<p>I know that the sophomores that interned this summer are already in the process of interviewing with other banks in NYC (i.e. early Superday). Don't stress if you can't get into the program, just do a MM or even a boutique during your summer. I know that if you get some kind of boutique experience, aren't a total tool, and have at least a 3.7+ GPA from target school, you'll have multiple offers, and will probably be able to decide where you want to go, as opposed to letting your offer(s) decide for you.</p>
<p>But, to sum up, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but, its really tough getting into these programs. Don't take anything personal. I think they're just looking for diversity.</p>
<p>Credit Suisse has a Wall Street Summer Immersion Program for sophomores. It's not a rotational program but just a 3-day (all meals, housing, flight to NY, etc. paid for) look at what it's like to be an IB analyst. They only took around 3-4 students from each target school, so this is no walk in the park either. It probably doesn't help that much because it's not an internship, but it should be good for the networking. Out of the 4 people from my school who went, I know 2 of them, who told me about it. I have no first-hand experience. You should still check it out next year on the CS website. Your school MAY notify you of this opportunity. It may not. There's a list of schools that are eligible to apply.</p>
<p>Goldman Sachs has several like this (FICC Week- During Spring Break), if you're interested in those. They're definetly worth it, and if you're impressive, they'll give you a summer offer. I think that some banks also do things during winter break, but you'd have to ask your recruiter. I'm pretty sure any program that's not actively recruiting (i.e. Summer Analyst, Full Time) would be incredibly hard to get into, but its always worth giving it a shot.</p>