<p>Anyone audition this past week?
Callbacks are tomorrow... ahhh scary</p>
<p>oh also - does anyone know about the program? How many people they usually accept? that kinda thing?</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>My kids were/are in the instrumental program but when I just asked my HS S how many kids are in the vocal program, his answer was "not a lot." It could be a boy thing or it could be real-you never know!</p>
<p>Double good wishes! How did the audition go? My S has his juries tomorrow.</p>
<p>If there is still time, you might also want to consider MSM precollege. The kids in the MSM program seemed to have a lot of fun and a less stressful experience. At least that is what my D reported back when the music kids compared their experiences.</p>
<p>I'm an MSM precollege kid (and audition proctor). If you have any questions regarding the program, I would be happy to answer.</p>
<p>im pretty sure the MSM deadline past. are there any other pre-college programs in the city that havent passed their deadline?
i dont think so... :(
juilliard called and told me i was number 7 out of the 6 people they are accepting.
damn</p>
<p>Yes, the MSM deadline passed as well as the first round of auditions.</p>
<p>Sorry about Juilliard... I heard that they are currently downsizing their program from 360 students to 200, to make it more selective...</p>
<p>If MSM auditions have not completed, call even tho the deadline is past. My D was able to audition late. Things may have changed that was several years ago.</p>
<p>There are now mandatory call-back auditions for all classical musicians. The first round was last Saturday and call-backs are on June 2. The only possibility might be to call them and ask if you can send in a CD.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for all your help. Pianoman, I called and left a message and I'm going to call back in the morning. My chances are pretty slim - but I don't know MSM, maybe they will be nicer than Juilliard lol
Do you know how selective it is? This year, Juilliard was 6 out of 100+.</p>
<p>What is involved in the Juilliard pre-college program that you would not get from a good private teacher? Is it the cache of the name or is there more to the program? There are wonderful voice teachers available in the city. Music theory instruction is available from many piano teachers and high school AP classes. Good luck. Lorelei</p>
<p>My high school doesn't offer AP classes, and I need some ear training/music history training for college auditions. I have a good private teacher but it'd be nice to have a program that has it all compacted rather than taking seperate classes - I have little free time and many teachers don't teach late at night or on Sundays.
For me, it'd be easier to do a program.</p>
<p>MSM is fairly competitive. I know several really great musicians who have not been accepted to the program. Most people audition two or three times before they are accepted. I know for piano this year, there are 101 live auditions. I'm not sure how many recorded auditions were submitted (from other countries). The graduating class graduated 16-18 pianists, so I am guessing they accept that many.</p>
<p>I'm not sure how competitive voice is, in particular. I believe there are 12 voice in this years graduating class. They will be attending Rice, Eastman, Villanova, Temple, Bard, Vassar, MSM (5), Harvard.</p>
<p>I really would recommend going to some saturday precollege program if possible. It surrounds you with like-minded kids who are either very talented, very smart, or both.</p>
<p>"...maybe they will be nicer than Juilliard"</p>
<p>MSM is much nicer... I broke my foot a few days before my MSM and Juilliard auditions. MSM let me send in a cd... Juilliard made me wobble in there in a cast and crutches.</p>
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<p>Thanks so much for your help, pianoman. I have a friend, Matt Rosenthal, who attended the Bass program there and just graduated. He's going to Steinhardt and he always spoke very highly of the program - I just didn't realize you could go for voice.
I'll let you know how things go. Thanks again</p>
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<p>Yeah, keep me posted.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>No luck. They're very competitive and would have needed me to be at auditions.
Thanks for your help though. I'm going to CMU for the summer for music, so I'll learn Theory and Ear Training there.
Stacey</p>
<p>"What is involved in the Juilliard pre-college program that you would not get from a good private teacher?" </p>
<p>i've been going to juilliard prep for bass for 5 years and here's the basic info about the program (i don't know much of anything about the voice/piano programs, sorry): </p>
<p>-everyone has to take theory & solfege
-everyone who plays an orchestral instrument must take orchestra<br>
-everyone must take private lessons
-everyone (except for bass, organ, percussion, harp, voice, guitar) must take chamber music
-conducting & chorus are extra
-everyone takes solfege/theory departmental exams at the end of each year to see if you can move to the next level
-there are 3 orchestras (chamber, symph, orch) and placement is by age
-there are concerto competitions for violin/cello/piano several times a year, an open woodwidn concerto comp, and an open concerto comp for everyone else
-most instruments have studio/master class
-classes can start as early as 9:00am and can end as late as 8:00pm
-here's what my schedule was this year to give you an idea: ringer for pre-college chamber orch 9-11am, theory 5 12-1pm, pre-college orchestra 2:30-5pm, solfege 5 5-6pm, masterclass 6-7pm. i have a complicated lesson situation because i study with a teacher in the college division so my lessons are during the week - other pre-college kids have this same situation, but not many </p>
<p>any other questions - feel free to ask me.</p>
<p>Well I auditioned for voice on Monday, and recieved a call back on the Wednesday. They still haven't replied to me, I have no idea if this is a bad thing or a good thing, does anyone know? As for MSM, I have a friend who currently goes to their pre college division for violin. She says for voice, the competition is very small and if you're a half decent singer, you can make it.</p>
<p>Well, my mother called, being the mother that she is lol to find out. We had auditioned on Tuesday, and they said they were choosing 6 of us to bring back on Wednesday. We got a call if we were one of the 6 - I don't know how many they needed from Monday, but thats great that you got a callback! As far as I know, 90 people auditioned, and 15 were called back. Out of those 15, they choose 6. Honestly, the woman seemed very nice on the phone - I'm sure if you call and just ask when you would find out about it, she'd probably tell you.
Good luck!</p>