Junior in CSOM- AMA

@appplicant Thank you very much! One more question, is it possible for a sophomore in CSOM to study abroad or do they have to wait till their Junior Year? Thank you for the responses!!

@eagleess1712 Glad to help. To my knowledge, it’s possible, but it is virtually never done. I would recommend strongly against it, but it’s something you could nonetheless talk about with your advisor. Personally, I don’t know anyone that has even attempted a sophomore abroad year, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s not permitted.

@Emsmom1 If your nephew hasn’t mentioned it, I definitely wouldn’t push a transfer into CSOM then. The minor is obviously an option, but the econ program is generally strong and won’t inhibit his employment opportunities or his BC experience. I know several econ majors that pursued alternative majors and minors in the A&S school and still have great business-related positions lined up. My roommate, for example, is Math and Econ and will be pursuing a prestigious actuarial position in Manhattan this summer.

@appplicant I won’t push for a transfer- I was just wondering after reading they were ranked #3 for undergrad business. I’m glad to hear the Econ program is strong and won’t inhibit any employment opportunities. Thanks again! You’re very helpful :slight_smile:

@appplicant which classes do you recommend for fulfilling the major requirements for finance and business analytics? When does the normal person start their major requirements?

@Emsmom1 Totally understood. Glad to help.

@1zogden1 I recommend Money and Capital Markets with Rush for one of your finance electives, and Investment Banking with Kisgen (who I haven’t had but heard great things about). For analytics, I really like Field. She’s super nice and down to earth.

You usually start you concentration-specific classes around the start of junior year. You might be able to squeeze one or two in your sophomore year though, depending on your credit count.

@appplicant for a minor in CSOM, do you know if the electives all have to be in management or can it be in finance or marketing?

@Dontskipthemoose to my knowledge, it’s MGMT only. See point 11 of the prior attached link on the last page “a. All students must take MGMT1021 Organizational Behavior and MGMT2127 Leadership. They also must take four electives from those labeled MGMT (e.g., MGMT2110, MGMT2111, MGMT2123, etc.)”

@appplicant Do most people bring TVs? If so, what size and where do people put them? (I was looking at the room layout, and I didn’t know where would be a good place to put it)

Do you have any advice on the room preferences section on the first year housing form? I was thinking of a triple or quad. The triples seem like they have a lot of space, but two roommates could go great or terribly. Even more so for a quad.

Does the preferences part even matter though? I’m assuming that singles and quads are extremely rare, with most people getting a double and maybe some triples.

@1zogden1 I’d say there’s a TV in like 80% of rooms. People usually put them on a dresser, I’d say. Sometimes on the minifridge. Most of the time the TV’s are used wth gaming consoles. I rarely actually watched TV my freshman year.

@HSStudent938 I had a forced triple, which is essentially the bottom of the barrel. However, I had no problems. I tried to go for a double with a pre-selected roommate (who I met during orientation) but actually ended up being paired with a random third, who is one of my best friends to this day. If you’re looking at the downsides, they exist in all setups. You can have a bad relationship with your one and only roommate in a double, and have no other roommates with whom to bond (or to defuse tentions). On the flip side, you could all be best friends. It’s not something that you can really easily pinpoint when entering the process.

You can bite the bullet an opt for a forced triple, which will guarantee you a spot on upper, but the cramped quarters poses an increased likelihood of conflict with what little space you have. Personally, the apex of housing for freshmen (in my opinion) is a double or quad as close as possible to the entrance to upper. The walk is shortest and the room per person is the best. Luckily, there are no forced triples on Newton, where the rooms are a touch larger.

@appplicant I remember that you said you graduated with a bunch of credits. If this included stats, would you recommend retaking stats if I’m doing finance and business analytics? I did very well in the class, but it was last year, and I remember very little of it.

I was looking at the required CSOM classes and curriculum. I’m taking the BC calc test in a couple weeks, and I didn’t find a benefit of having the calc II credit, only the calc I. You only need one math credit for the core, and the website says you can’t use AP credit for the 12 A&S elective credits. Am I missing something, or is there really no benefit of coming in with the calc II credits?

At admitted eagle day back in January, one of the slides said Wall Street Trek, but they never explained what it was. Do you know what it is?

@1zogden1 Of my AP’s and college classes, AP Stat was the only one I actually didn’t get credit for (I bombed the exam). I’d recommend stats either way actually. It definitely helps to re-acquaint yourself as you go through the core and later on into your concentration (esp. with analytics).

They may have lessened the core or revised it since I was a freshman, because I got Calc BC credit and I thought it got me out of two math classes. Though I could be wrong. That said, you take the BC test and get an AB subscore with it, as I’m sure you know, so I’d just study for the test as you normally would and let things shake out from there. If you’re absolutely positive that you can receive no further benefit from taking the BC exam, maybe you can go easy on yourself and submit a deposit solely for the AB test, if it’s possible for you (just to make things a bit easier for the end of your year). Really it’s your call. I thought taking BC got me out of calc I and II, but they make little revisions like that every few years, so I don’t know if what stood for me still stands for you.

The Wall street trek is cool. I did it at the start of last semester amidst recruitment. Granted, our bus broke down and we missed the first of our bank visits, but the usual scenario is you and about 50 other aspiring bankers in your year huddle into a greyhound bus (or whatever company is currently offering service) at around 2 am on a Friday morning. You sleep all the way there while in a suit/business formal attire because you’ll have nowhere to change. You get into the first of four banks in Manhattan, where they’re all headquartered. They usually give you breakfast and a little presentation, you network, and then repeat with three of our other main banks that recruit most heavily, with the third or the last sometimes offering lunch (the main list of banks are usually Deutsche Bank, Citi, Barclays, and UBS, but my trip we subbed out Barclays for Credit Suisse). They all do their pitches about why they’re great and you always get at least 20 minutes to network, then you pile back into the bus around 3 or 4 and head back to campus with a stack of business cards and a ton of thank you’s to write. It’s pretty much a hardcore recruitment accelerator that you have to apply for but it’s a great experience if you get the chance to go, especially to have the little back pocket info that you could say during interviews that you were at their office. I actually had a great networking call with a guy at UBS where I mentioned the ping pong table that they had when I was in the office and walked by; as it turns out, it was his idea to bring in the table and we just had a great talk about ping pong and office games for a solid ten minutes. Moral of the story is that the Wall Street Trek opens doors and I’d definitely recommend doing it.

@appplicant How prevalent is the club exclusivity? I was not aware that BC had clubs that you had to apply for, and I’m worried about it. About what percentage of clubs have applications, and how hard are they to get into? It would be great if you could talk about the business ones in particular like the investment club.

I was wondering, is there any advantage of registering for an earlier orientation?

You can get into any club you want. The competitive process is to get a mentor in the Investment Banking/Sales and Trading Club (IBST). Anyone can join that club but there are only so many mentors available. Each mentor only gets a certain number of underclassmen because mentoring is a time-intensive process. Students with weak GPAs, very few extra-curriculars and so forth would have a hard time getting selected for an on-campus interview, thus mentoring them wouldn’t really do much good. Membership in any club is absolutely not a competitive process, though. All are welcome.

@gobosox Thank you the response, but @appplicant has said that there are a substantial clubs that you need to apply to in order to get in. Either way @appplicant could you clarify this?

@1zogden1 Yeah, I would say a good chunk of clubs require applications, most consistent are the ones that usually involve service in the community and abroad (like spring break trips). Oftentimes, within clubs, there are also applications for slightly raised positions in the clubs (not referring to the club board, which obviously requires an application in almost all scenarios). The aforementioned slightly raised positions, for example, would be the analyst program contained within the investment club, which usually has a fairly large applicant pool for a small number of spots. All club sports, and dance and singing groups (that I know of) also have a tryout of some form, which is fairly obvious.

To correct @gobosox, you cannot just join IBST without first applying. You apply to be a mentee, and the club exclusively consists of mentees and mentors, with no extraneous members. The mentors are also exclusively past mentees that have completed the subsequent summer analyst position at whatever bank to which they were accepted. There is NOT open membership; only mentees and mentors. I’m not sure if he/she is confusing the investment club with the investment banking club, of which the former is open membership, but I speak confidently, as a junior mentor in IBST. Furthermore, I want to reassert that exclusivity can absolutely exist, and is unfortunately a factor in some of the larger clubs that hold more in-demand experiences, like building houses abroad or participating in service initiatives around the community. Again, that is by no means the entirety of the BC club offering, and there are SEVERAL fully open clubs with minimal obligations.

@jvjvjv To my knowledge, no. However, I was paranoid and had the same thought you did, so I applied to the first session anyway, as I feel like that would be the safest bet. I just wanted to make sure things like class selection wouldn’t put me at a disadvantage of any sort, so I bit the bullet and went to my college orientation about three weeks before even graduating high school.

Do you know anyone who had experience with the pre-law advising at BC? If yes can you provide some info please