<p>I know that they don't keep recruits over for Sat. nights because the athletes tend to party more because they don't practice on Sun. I know that the goal is to expose my child to the school. I just don't know if accepting a beer at a party will be a problem. I would rather they don't drink at all but I would have had a drink at a college party when I was a high school senior. I just didn't happen to be a guest of the college...:)</p>
<p>bessie ... if you are comfortable doing so would you mind mentioning the school from your post ... it is a great plug for the school!</p>
<p>my friend who is being recruited by Harvard for crew was told by the coach that she had a 90% of admission</p>
<p>Many, many student athletes already in at all Ivies. Many schools have made commitments to even some current high school juniors. Virtue of Ivy admission for sports, as well as some other schools, is that financial aid and admissions can be markedly enhanced and there is no requirement of ever playing, let alone starring, to maintain aid, which often is greater than "athletic scholarships." Recruiting cycle earlier and earlier and schools want a fall commitment, now or soon. Formal admission is deferred to ED/EA time during fall cycle (even Ivies without ED will give you a strong "likely letter" now or later if admission not formal until April), so grades, character must be maintained and nothing's done til it's done, but coaches are reliable about your status.</p>
<p>redcrimblue- that is not accurate for all Ivy schools and all sports. There are many differences between coaches, schools and sports. Many coaches/schools will NOT give likely letters unless really pushed, and then only for very top recruits. Financial packages are need-based, and may be enhanced, but again, only for the very top recruits.</p>
<p>I agree, and appreciate the comment, less so for fencing, etc., but certainly so for major sports. Party line is that financial aid not enhanced, but it is, or can be.</p>
<p>3togo: If I identified the school and it discouraged a recruit from wanting to take an official visit (say it was a kid who wanted to come and have a good time), it would be detrimental to the team and would make the coaches very unhappy. I owuld never do that. And for all I know, the coach may offer different activities to different kids and/or their families. The ones who were recruited my son's year visited with their families. Let's just say that every official visit is orchestrated by the coaches and they tell their athletes what to do with the recruits. Believe me, college aged athletes are probably not waiting all week to entertain a high school aged stranger... they do so because it is part of their team duties and they do whatever the coach wants them to for the good of the team. As far as drinking goes, nearly every college student is going to get more than enough exposure to that sooner or later. Nothing on the official visit is "real," although an athlete can get a feel for the campus and for his potential future teammates. Recruiting is recruiting, whatever the activity. No matter what happens on a visit, things will change once the student is enrolled. I don't care much about the drinking thing as I have seen what happens when kids get to college, but I have spoken to some high school aged recruits from who were extrememly uncomfortable on their visits because they weren't drinkers and weren't ready to party with the big boys. At least that's what they told their mothers! lol.</p>
<p>Redcrimblue, I have to think you're talking about football or basketball. Maybe lacrosse as a very distant third?</p>
<p>It's almost as if there are two tiers of recruiting. My older S was recruited by every Ivy in his sport (none of the above), was very clear about his first choice school, and then waited with every other Tom, Dick and Harold for his ED notification mid-December. No doubt he was not the top recruit on the list, but he wasn't dead last, either.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder whether a coach says "I have you on my list" , or "I'd really like to have you on our team" and parents and students hear "I'm in". </p>
<p>Recruiting weekends haven't even begun for some sports, so it concerns me a bit that some people read Redcrimblue's post and assume "all those athletes have it so easy; they know they're in in September". It's just not true.</p>
<p>I'd have to agree with Dizzymom. At our high school, only one sport (<em>coughlacrossecough</em>) seemed to be flagrantly violating the NCAA contact/Ivy commitment regulations. All others played by the rules, and while "likely letters" were available, they required very early submission of paperwork/commitment by the athletes and strong support from coaches.</p>
<p>Our D, also recruited by multiple Ivies for her sport, also waited on tenterhooks for the final EA letter to arrive.</p>
<p>I think the top ranked D1 lacrosse schools are very aggressive in their recuiting. Maybe top 10 schools. But their recruiting is only very aggressive with the top maybe 50 recruits in a given year. I have not noticed any "flagrant contact/committment regulation " violations. In fact, I noted that coaches were very clear in communicating what was allowed in terms of contacts and visits and not stepping outside that line.</p>
<p>It would seem my recruited ahtlete had a very "tame" official visit compared to most of the info here. Watched a lot of team work outs, met with numerous coaches as well as the dean of admissions. Stayed with a freshman who was pretty sore and tired from all the team work outs, not inclined to do a lot of Party Hearty stuff. Did dinner with the head coach one night and hung out with the team the other night at that college's soccer game.</p>
<p>I know all of this 'cause I was also there. Paid my own way, of course, but they generously included an interested parent, but I kept my distance and disappeared when I thought it best. But I also wanted to be there for certain coach/athlete meetings, specifically the last one. First recruit in, so it was a little vague, but honest. This is a highly thought of LAC - D1. We felt good about the whole process, and were sold on the school (pretty much were before, this was just icing). </p>
<p>Now that recruited athlete is the one too tired to Party Hearty!! (Or so I'm told-but I'm a realist; there is a pretty strict policy about that stuff and my athlete tends to take this stuff to heart.) Recently helped host a recruit who has verbally committed. They're doing something right.</p>
<p>To KateLewis,
But the EA finally came? Our D is in the midst of Ivy recruitment trips and it is so hard to know how to handle her safeties. The Ivies just sound so sure that all is well, but I don't want to mislead my daughter into complacency when other coaches call...
Only multiple prom dates could be worse...ha</p>
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<p>Similar experience here with two kids, two different sports.</p>
<p>My daughter the chatterbox tells me everything (a burden at times) and except for a late night here and there her visits were the lamest of lame, really focused on the sport. She had a great time btw. </p>
<p>Son is opposite, like a stone, but I asked him tonight how his visits were 4 or 5 years ago, sounded pretty tame in retrospect.</p>
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<p>Sigh. Does this ever change?</p>
<p>How are everyone’s kids doing on their officials? Daughter has two down and two to go. So far, so good.</p>
<p>D just got back from her 1st official and was impressed beyond belief, both by the friendliness of the team and the quality of the teaching in classroom visits.
Hardest part for us is we live on one coast and she wants the other. She’s tired but excited. Wish we knew how to read this attention…
Two visits to go. The travel time really makes us think hard about how many visits to take. Invaluable information gained, however.</p>
<p>My daughter went on her first official visit this past weekend. It was to the school she has long considered her “dream school”. It absolutely lived up to her expectations! She still has one more visit to go & the second school has an academic edge for her intended major. Only time will tell how this will all play out.</p>
<p>Coaches told us that they generally have three weekends where they bring in recruits which goes through the first week into October. From there, they start to push for commitment from the ones they want. I guess that is when all the fun begins. We did get good feedback from coaches but they are hedging their bets until they see who is going where which is understandable.</p>
<p>I know of two recruited athletes who were flown in and hosted, one from overseas. Neither were major sports. </p>
<p>The likely letters go out in Mid October and answers have to be in by November 15th.</p>
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