@85bears46 The Admissions Office is leakier than the White House LOL.
@85bears46 Sometimes leaks are just a form of deliberate messaging …
I think it came from the Norndorf dossier.
By the way, Dean Norndorf reminds me of the “My Pillow” guy.
JB - you have to hear them as well as see them. Both are consummate (and perpetual) sales people.
Both Pillow man and Nondorf have been wildly successful, however …
@preppedparent hmmm…tough that your kids get rejected from HYPS so they needed to go way down the list to find their fit, but you seem to suffer from Stockholm syndrome beacause of it. Anyway you might want to return to your preferred school, Yale, and give those future applicants advice on goe to be rejected.
@websensation, the U of C managed to increase their undergrad student body size 50% while going up the rankings and dropping their admit rate, so I think Stanford will manage.
My problem with the “Cornell or Dartmouth” comment is that it somehow implies that Cornell and Dartmouth are less than amazing institutions. They aren’t less than amazing institutions. They’re both a little out of fashion now, because rural is out and urban is in (which is one of the reasons why Chicago is more popular at the moment, if you discount Cornell applications by NY residents to the state-supported colleges there), and Dartmouth is a little hard to compare to any other college because it’s really a great LAC attached to about half a research university. But Cornell utterly changed American higher education – every well-regarded university today is a university that got the message quickly and modeled itself after Cornell – and it remains a first-rank university. And Dartmouth . . . when I was in high school, Dartmouth was seen as a legitimate alternative to HYP if you wanted a more intimate experience and liked to ski. My sister only went to Stanford because Dartmouth rejected her. Back then, Penn and Columbia were seen as the bottom of the Ivy barrel.
But @preppedparent has it half dead wrong with the “not intellectuals or world changers, more grinds” comment. I think the reputation now and way back when is not world changers or grinds, more intellectuals. Back when there was only one admission criterion, intellectualism was it. Now they clearly care about stats (including, in some cases, vertical leap and 40-yard-dash times), and they want a few potential world changers, but intellectualism is still pretty much a must-have.
Re size: I think 20 years ago, Chicago had about 4,000 undergraduates, and it had been 3,200 only a few years before that. It will be close to 7,000 in the fall. That’s a lot more than a 50% expansion.
Speaking of intellectualism, D17 texted me last last evening that she’s planning to become an Ancient Skeptic. She must have done well in Hum.
Where in the world is your source for the claim that Stanford undergrad program is going to grow 10% a year for 5 years or more? I’m a Stanford alum and have visited the campus recently, you’d have to build an entire neighborhood of new dorms for that to happen, and it ain’t happening.
Can you give a source for the claim “applicants from China are flooding the market?”
@CU123 you don’t need to be so snarky. We just don’t like UChicago no matter what its rank. Its okay. I’m sure other people want to go there.
Stanford is adding 100 undergrad heads per year for the next 15-20 years.
If all the new heads are frosh, that would be 6-7% growth per year for the incoming class. Y and P are also increasing their enrollments.
“not a world changer”–hilarious, here’s UChicago not being a game-changer:
https://qz.com/498534/these-25-schools-are-responsible-for-the-greatest-advances-in-science/
this is just one example.
CHYP (or CHYPMS) should go for a 0% admissions endgame, and then everybody resets back to 50% admissions and start again ;).
Actually, in a few years we will have negative admissions. Students will be ejected …
^lol or students will be rejected while filling out the apps
Wait - a 0% acceptance then a reset back to 50? Sounds like a crazy version of monetary reform . . .
^heh… need to be schooled in econ. If only there were a top caliber school to get that…