<p>Do you think one B- would prevent me from getting into the business school? All of my other grades are B or above.</p>
<p>I had 3 B- grades and 1 C+ grade and I was still admitted to Kelley. However, my courseload was much more difficult than the average student's and none of the sub-B grades were in admission courses. The rest of my grades were above the B range. </p>
<p>Here were the grades I got in admission courses:</p>
<p>W131 A-
M118 A-
M211 B
K201 B+</p>
<p>I retook A100 after dropping the first time and got an A.</p>
<p>Based on my experience, a single B- would definitely NOT prevent you from being admitted to Kelley. You'll be fine like I was; just keep up the good work in your second semester and before you know it you'll be in. </p>
<p>If second semester doesn't go well for you then you can always take classes in Summer Session 1 to improve your chances of being admitted.</p>
<p>Are you allowed to take M211 instead of M119? I was wondering because M211 is not on the list of admission courses on their website. How big of an advantage would it be to take M211? (If that is allowed)</p>
<p>Yes, you can take M211 instead of M119 fto meet the business school admissions requirement. It is actually considered the more difficult course, however.</p>
<p>What are your chances of getting into Kelley's via standard admission with all B+'s in the admission courses required?</p>
<p>Very good--as Waverian said in the other thread on this. </p>
<p>Originally they had just a 3.0 requirement to get in (straight Bs). Because of the limited number of spots for non-direct admits, lately that has gone up to about a 3.1 to 3.2 GPA requirement. However, if you have all B+s, then you obviously have a 3.3 GPA, which will meet the requirement for admission.</p>
<p>The key is they want to know that you will be able to complete all of the remaining business courses with no problem and be able to graduate within the 4-5 year timeframe. This is the reason for the Kelley admission criteria.</p>
<p>Actually Calcruzer, I asked one of the Kelley admission officers and she said last summer the average GPA of the non-direct admit student who was accepted into the B-scool was a 3.56...which is a bit scary hahahah.</p>
<p>Here is a thread from last summer on grades and getting accepted to Kelley.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/537882-kelley-standard-admission-decisions.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/537882-kelley-standard-admission-decisions.html</a></p>
<p>radronomega,</p>
<p>Well, I think a 3.56 GPA is the average (like you said). I'm stating what I believe is now the minimum GPA needed for acceptance--which is now 3.1 to 3.2 (up from 3.0 two years ago).</p>
<p>Obviously, it will continue to get tougher if the level of students applying and attending the school continues to increase--and if there isn't grade deflation applied to level out the grades based upon the tougher competition.</p>
<p>Again, contributors here need to pay attention to what has changed at Kelley. Standard admission requirements no longer include an overall GPA, so if you have a 3.2 and think you're going to get in, don't count on it. It's all about course grades now. Every single grade must be B or above (no B- grades) for automatic admission. Any single course grade below B puts you at high risk for getting turned down. Based on conversations I've had with the admissions staff, some students with one B- did not get accepted recently. Because of so much focus on individual grades, the acceptance rate dropped this spring to around 50%.</p>
<p>I would guess that Kelley is attracting so many direct admits now that it is much harder every year for a non-direct admit to get in through Option One. The total class size remains the same, but increasing direct admit spots means far fewer spots for non-direct admits to compete for.</p>
<p>Besides rising grades for Option One admittance, the trend is reflected in who signs up for A205 Honors Financial Accounting. It used to be that students with freshman standing could get into the class, as any direct admit who has passed A100 was eligible to sign up. Not anymore, however. In 2007, 33 freshmen got in; in 2008, only eight freshmen got in; this year, no freshmen had enough hours to register for the class early enough to get in. In other words, there are more direct admits with more college credit entering Kelley, so that only students with sophomore standing by the first week of Spring classes had enough credits to get into A205 this year. This year, it took about thirteen pre-IU credits hours for an entering direct admit to get in. In 2006, eight percent of the class was Juniors or Seniors. This year, it is over fifty percent. Believe it or not, some of the students listed in the Spring 2009 A205 roster as having junior class standing graduated from high school in 2008.</p>
<p>Class standing of A205 students:
Spring 2009
FR-None SO66 JR67 SR5 3 sections</p>
<p>Spring 2008
FR08 SO108 JR31 SR4 3 sections </p>
<p>Spring 2007
FR33 SO81 JR35 SR0 3 sections </p>
<p>Spring 2006
FR23 SO41 JR05 SR01 2 sections</p>
<p>This post pertains to bthomp1 and Calcruzer -
Option I and Option II for admission no longer exist at Kelley. We have two types of admission: (1) direct freshman admission and (2) standard admission. This is outlined in the 2008-2010 Academic Bulletin. For the latter type of admission, students must complete at least 26 credit hours (including all admissions courses) and earn grades of B or above in all courses. Freshmen (who are not directly admitted) typically apply at the end of their first year, and transfer students can apply at the end of their first semester on the IUB campus if they meet the aforementioned requirements. Decisions on standard admission are straightforward: (1) admitted, (2) deferral, and (3) denial. Deferrals are very limited in number and are granted only to students with special circumstances.</p>
<p>Yes, and under the new policy, I see that one can take up to 70 units before applying (although I’m guessing this is pretty rare, and probably applies mostly to transfer students).</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, inthemid, do you have any statistics on the percentages of those applying for standard admission and being admitted vs. deferred vs. denied? This has been a question of concern for many on here for a long time–but we’ve not been able to establish these percentages–although we tried to do so on the thread listed by bthomp1 above. </p>
<p>Based upon data put up by Waverly, dstark, and others, I’ve estimated that standard acceptance percentages have been falling–and now may be as little as 33% to 40% only. (That is, of those who aren’t granted direct admission status to Kelley, and who then apply through the standard admission process, only 33% to 40% of these are being admitted to Kelley.)</p>
<p>Many have commented that this is undoubtedly what is creating Kelley administrators to require higher overall GPAs (it used to be a 3.0 would almost always get you in, but now the requirement seems higher–like a 3.1 to 3.2) and also seems to be why you are suggesting that a C or C+ may also disqualify someone from acceptance.</p>
<p>I don’t have any statistics to go by other than the size of the Kelley school and their graduation rates versus their stated number of direct admits on the data they put out–so any additional data or statistics you have would be most helpful to both me–and especially for others who are considering coming to Indiana University and then applying for the Kelley business school through the standard admission process.</p>