<p>i'll bold big-name publics (imo) that are listed within the ranking:</p>
<ol>
<li>UNC</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li> UF</li>
<li>College of W&M</li>
<li>UM-College Park</li>
<li>UCLA
7.NCF</li>
<li>UCB</li>
<li>Suny Geneseo</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
</ol>
<p>Other notable public universities (imo):</p>
<p>*13. UW-Madison
17. UWashington
27. UT-Austin
30. GeorgiaTech
37. tOSU
39. IU-Bloomington
43. UIUC
48. PSU
51. Purdue
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<li>tOSU</li>
</ol>
<p>Ohio State would be #1 if *National Buckeye Scholarship<a href="$48,000">/I</a> were factored into the ranking equation imho! :D</p>
<p>The $48,000 is over four years, so $12,000 per year. It is also competitive, not automatic-for-stats.</p>
<p>In any case, the actual best value for any given student depends on many individual factors, including state of residency, need-based financial aid, and merit scholarships.</p>
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<p>What makes you think it isn’t already factored into the equation?
Kiplinger considers both need-based and merit aid.</p>
<p>$48K is good but does not seem especially remarkable as 4-year scholarships go. It is less than half the value of non-resident tuition & fees. Alabama (which is lower-ranked than TOSU) has a Presidential scholarship, which covers the value of non-resident tuition for 4 years (for OOS recipients), and is automatic-for-stats.</p>
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<p>^^ You said it. And it’s not just higher ranked in terms of overall academic reputation, but majority if not all departments and majors strength when comparing the two schools. With National Buckeye Scholarship for “qualified” students, COA for the OOS students will be roughly 25k a year attending tOSU - a true bargain in terms of top public schools in the country. </p>
<p>Ohio State is an international brand name academic institution, and rated as the only “Up-and-Coming” school five years in-a-row by USNWR = destined to break into the Top-50 ranking in the next year or two imho - in addition to state-of-the-art facilities and renown faculties.</p>
<p>Instead of using “Admission Rate” as representation of the academic quality of the institution based on selection, Kiplinger should have used the standardized scores in terms of reflecting the actual strength of student body imho. For instance:</p>
<p>University of Alabama</p>
<p>Admissions Data (2011):</p>
<pre><code>Percent of Applicants Admitted: 44%
Test Scores – 25th / 75th Percentile
SAT Critical Reading: 500 / 620
SAT Math: 500 / 640
SAT Writing: 490 / 620
ACT Composite: 22 / 29
ACT English: 22 / 31
ACT Math: 20 / 27
ACT Writing 6 / 8
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<p>[University</a> of Alabama - ACT Scores and Admissions Data for UA, the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/u-alabama.htm]University”>University of Alabama: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores, GPA)</p>
<p>Ohio State University</p>
<p>Admissions Data (2011):</p>
<pre><code>Percent of Applicants Admitted: 63%
Test Scores – 25th / 75th Percentile
SAT Critical Reading: 540 / 660
SAT Math: 600 / 700
SAT Writing: 550 / 650
ACT Composite: 26 / 30
ACT English: 25 / 31
ACT Math: 26 / 31
ACT Writing: 7 / 8
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<p>[Ohio</a> State University Profile - SAT Scores and Admissions Data for Ohio State University](<a href=“http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/p/OSU.htm]Ohio”>Ohio State University: Acceptance Rate, SAT/ACT Scores)</p>
<p>UNC can’t possibly be a best value when they don’t offer the most lucrative engineering majors.</p>
<p>SUNY-Binghamton came in at #13 for in state and #3 for OOS…</p>
<p>“Best Value must also include Better Academics”</p>
<p>Precisely why tOSU is ranked number 37. You should be happy with that ranking Sparkeye, tOSU is finally in the top 50! Yeah! lol ;-)</p>
<p>Distinction in the OP should be for in-state and OOS…</p>
<p>OOS COA for many of those in the top instate list are prohibitive…</p>
<p>The list is pretty general and lacks detailed analysis.</p>
<p>I’d include #45 Minnesota, #46 Michigan State, and #47 Miami U (OH) in the “notables.”</p>
<p>Also worth noting:
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Best values for OOS students**</p>
<ol>
<li>SUNY Geneseo</li>
<li>UNC Chapel Hill</li>
<li>Binghamton</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>College of NJ</li>
<li>William & Mary</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>Stony Brook</li>
<li>U Maryland - College Park</li>
<li>U Florida</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
<li>Truman State</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>Pitt</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>UCI</li>
<li>UCD</li>
<li>U Washington</li>
<li>UConn</li>
<li>James Madison</li>
<li>Georgia</li>
<li>NC State</li>
</ol>
<p>Some other popular choices: Penn State #31, VaTech #35, Ohio State #39, Clemson #39, Texas #41, Minnesota Morris #46, Miami U #47, Georgia Tech #48, U Vermont #67, Purdue #68, Alabama #76, Colorado-Boulder #98.</p>
<p>This stands conventional CC wisdom on its head, with 6 UCs and the University of Michigan in the top 20 value schools for OOS students, and such CC faves as Miami U (OH) and Alabama far down the list.</p>
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I wonder if part of the lure of UA and Miami are the merit scholarships (especially the NMSF) which make them attractive compared to the typical OOS applicant.</p>
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<p>Undoubtedly, but I’ve seen a number of CCers rave about both schools even without the National Merit scholarships.</p>
<p>^^^Me too bclintonk. I guess Kiplinger’s sees things a bit differently.</p>
<p>Number 18 for instate students Texas A&M would be a good option for students looking at business or engineering. Lots of scholarship money, especially for NMSF/NMFs. Engineering grads can expect high salaries apon graduation- the average salary of graduating ChemEs (my major)was the highest in the state according to salary reports from A&M, UT etc.</p>
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<p>Ohio State is also mentioned in Princeton Review’s Best Value Colleges 2012. Go Bucks!! :)</p>
<p>So this ranking takes the list of the top schools, reduces to a mediocre subset of those schools by selecting the crappy public ones, then takes an even more mediocre subset of those by taking the cheap ones.</p>
<p>Nice list.</p>
<p>Kiplinger also makes available a list of “best values” in private LACs and another list of “best values” in private research universities. Cost is not the only factor in any of these rankings. The top-ranked schools are not necessarily the cheapest.</p>