<p>my college list is filled with tiny liberal arts schools that for the most part lack engineering or business. ive decided to add a few larger schools to my list in case i develop other interests. but i need small class sizes to succeed. i have 3 on my list temporarily: U wisc/madison, UNH, and UVM. i couldnt find stats on class sizes for any of those 3, or any else. any recommendations for other schools that fit, or links to statistics? thanks :)</p>
<p>Most of the Ivies have pretty small schools...</p>
<p>no ivies. use wisc/madison as a guide as the absolute toughest college i might have a shot of getting into.</p>
<p>Big state schools are typically going to have 250+ kids in freshman and sophomore classes. Even UVM (which is relatively smaller) will probably have at least 100 students in most freshman classes. If you need small classes to succeed, don't apply to giants, because you probably won't find small classes until senior year. There are plenty of small schools out there (around 3000-5000) with LOTS of options and business/engineering. </p>
<p>Try: Bucknell, Lehigh, Carnegie Mellon, Case Western Reserve, Gonzaga, Northwestern, Pepperdine, The College of New Jersey, Juniata, Loyola Marymount, WUSL, Denver, etc.</p>
<p>If UW is the hardest you could get into, of my list, Case Western, Gonzaga, Juniata, TCNJ, Loyola Marymount, and Denver would all probably be good bets. Possibly Bucknell too.</p>
<p>As for Case Western, it depends. I go there now, and alot of the science classes have over 100 people. But the rest are all reasonably sized. Even many 100-level classes in the Humanities and Social Sciences have under 40 people. I have a history class with only 3 other people. And of course, FSC100 (required) is limited to 17 per class. I would think it is somewhat harder to get into than Madison, but it is also fair to say that it isn't tough to get into either.</p>
<p>Unless things have changed over the last couple of decades, classes at the Univ. of Wisconsin are quite large--and that includes classes taken as a junior and a senior. Sometimes a huge lecture will also have a discussion section that meets once or twice a week and is run by a T.A., but in other classes, you will be in a class with 50-60 students with no regular discussion section.</p>
<p>If you really need small class size to succeed, as you say, the really large public universities may not be the best choice.</p>
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My thoughts exactly. I mean, variety sounds good in theory, but not if it's going to hinder your success. LACs might not have quite as much variety as the giants, but they typically have enough variety to suit whatever interests you develop along the way.</p>
<p>thanks for the help. i eliminated wisconsin and UNH, but i think i will keep UVM on the list unless i hear more bad news about its class sizes. i have also found some nice LAC's that also have business or engineering, so my list is a bit more diverse than before.</p>
<p>umiami (fl) has about 10,000 students and the class sizes are pretty small. also they have a really good business school.</p>