Nah - you won’t find that data at any uni LOL. Wish it were so! Wisconsin probably comes the closest by disclosing the average ACT of its residents and admit rates by residency.
UMN won’t need to compromise stats because they can make up any shortfall with high stats International applicants if they need to. But Now that they are on the CA with a much wider reach than they had, its possible that stats and quality of the class is just no longer a concern. We’ll see
No way to hide the fact that it is incredibly cold in Minnesota. Good or bad, it is COLD. The tuition waivers were nice while they existed, but that is no longer the case.Whether the administration can justify them or not, the tuition hikes come across as a big turn off for many. with lots of unknowns going forward. As mentioned before, Minnesota has some great programs including Carlson, I just don’t see a lot of OOS people from far away states making it the ultimate destination
For example, here are some facts about Carlson
http://interact.csom.umn.edu/annualreport17/
There were 7 percent less applicants in 2017 than the year before
About 30 percent of the accepted students are choosing UM which is not a great yield considering that they accept 30% of its applicants
Only 13% of its students are from another state other than MN, WI, ND, and SD.
Is there a correlation between the tuition increases and the number of applications and % yield?
Pretty much all the Big Ten Schools (and Business schools as well) and very well ranked and depending where you are from some are much popular than others. Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and of course Michigan seem to be the top choices around here. The University of Minnesota was an incredible value for many OOS students. With all these increases, it will no longer be considered a choice destination for many. This has nothing to do with the quality of education. It is a great institution of higher leaning and one of the reasons I applied there.
These tuition increases should have been done in a more measured way… I think they would have been more palpable.I would not be surprised if they make it up by increasing future Merit Scholarships two years from now.
My two cents on this complex topic. State flagship schools are doing a delicate balancing act and dancing with the devil at the same time. Owing to reductions in state financing at many schools (UW Madison as an example) administrators need to find alternative sources of revenue. Wealthier high achieving OOS and international students who pay higher tuition$$$ are part of the solution. However this goes against the chartered mission of the school, which is to educate people of the state. Some schools (see Alabama) are purchasinbhigh achieving OOS applicants to boost their measurable and visibility. I am concerned about the impacts of tuition increases at UMTC for OOS students and a decrease in such students will negatively impact the university to some extent. How much remains to be seen. However this is a measured and money driven change. No idea how this impacts my kid from WI who is deferred with pretty strong numbers. Quality of applicant pool still pretty good.
And with respect to Michigan…it’s a great school obviously…but it’s a destination for the elite and wealthy. More than half the students are from outside the state, which is not he model for UMTC. UW-Madison keeps raising their OOS cap which I believe is 30 percent. Many are unhappy with this.
@collegeisago if you look at the statistics for Carlson’s incoming classes of 2015, 2016 and 2017 you see that 2017 was oversubscribed (unless they’ve made a decision to increase the class size that I’m not aware of). Last year (class of 2017) was the first year of the new admission deadline was put in place and everything was bumped forward by six weeks. That’s going to impact applications. No matter, however, since their yield was up by two points over the prior year. And Carlson ALWAYS had 2/3 MN residents. It’s a state uni. You see that with all state uni’s.
Don’t go into economic forecasting, friend.
“Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and of course Michigan seem to be the top choices around here” - and where did you say that was again? Is your own state uni. not up to par with those others?
Anyone who wishes to have a nice tuition discount from UMN is welcome to contact their local state representatives and urge them to work out a reciprocity agreement.
@Boomer1964, have you been following the tuition hikes of the past two years? Do you remember how much they were?
Oh, one more thing I forgot to post above, @collegeisago: The 2017 application numbers are the same as for 2015. The first year of the hike, fall 2016, saw an 8% application increase at Carlson which is kind of weird and not sure why. In general, Carlson gets about 7,000 applications per year. With the tuition increase, we wouldn’t expect to see application #'s increase (unless for other reasons of course) and they certainly could decrease a bit in a given year for a bunch of reasons; but that doesn’t matter if the overall yield is solid and the class is as strong as (or stronger than) before. The goal is to increase revenue, not lower the quality of the class. The reason that they increased in the pattern they did (pay attention, @Boomer1964!) is to make sure they weren’t compromising quality. There’s been no evidence of that yet.
@rstdane1 - the folks I know who work at UMN say the exact same thing you said in #23 above. Universities glommed on to the “tuition model” about 10-15 years ago and won’t let go - especially those uni’s facing problematic funding due to budget battles, etc. Many feel they need to increase in size and prestige in order to compete on the national and international stage, and all that takes $$$'s. But you are correct, it does contradict the charter, although universities get around that by opening up satellite campuses, renaming their flagships to the locality (UMN is now UMTC, etc.) and introducing or increasing another tier in the form of the State U. system
A president’s mandate is to increase the revenue flow - benefactors, efficiency in bringing in paying students, etc. Shocking, I know. 
Increasing the revenue flow allows them to bring in star profs, build new and better facilities, and keep up with the competition.
I thought that UWisc. system lifted their OOS cap. Looking at the enrollment percentages on College Navigator, UWisconsin seems to have a lower % from WI than it did a couple years ago, but maybe I’m misremembering (and could it also be due to declining state population as well?).
@JBStillFlying Nobody here is saying anything negative about YOUR SCHOOL. In my opinion and for what it seems others have similar opinions as well, the tuition increases might have a negative impact in future OOS enrollment. I am already discounting it and so is another poster. But that is OK you can;t seem to see past The Aerial Lift Bridge
@collegeisago - funny you should say that. I have no kids at UMN! LOL. Was just rebutting your argument using more data. I apologize for misleading you by doing so.
What was your state of residence again and why aren’t you planning to attend your flagship? Did you not get in?
BTW, the Aerial Lift Bridge is in Duluth. 
I got into my State Flagship as well all the other schools that I applied to Probably headed to The Ohio State University. Family in Plymouth.
^^ Well, that’s great! If OSU gave you $$$ even better! You will do just fine. A couple of years ago a really bright poster on CC very much wanted to go to UMN (the ed. school) but didn’t get any scholarship money. She was offered significant dollars at OSU and they actually had a better-ranked program of study than at UMN for her major. We all tried to point out that OSU was probably a better choice. Hopefully she’s there now and thriving.
I think OOS and international students enrich the university and am concerned about the draconian increases intuition for these kids. As stated above it should have been a much more gradual increase. That said, the OOS tuition rates from a few years ago were a complete joke. Alabama , Auburn, and a few other schools still will pay for your child to attend. 3.5 GPA and 33 ACT = free tuition at Alabama and waitlist at UMTC. But which is the better value? What are we actually paying for?
@rstdane1 - I’ve had this exact same conversation with engineering profs at UMN. If you attend 'Bama for, say, chemical engineering, will you have the career and grad school opportunities as someone who attends UMN/UW/UIUC/UMich/Purdue/OSU and so on. This was also discussed on the UMN cc thread a couple years ago - very interesting conversation and done in conjunction with the announcement of the first set of tuition hikes (9% at the time - steep, but not nearly as steep as the one proposed ). At the time, an academic engineer weighed in on the conversation and said that there was just no comparison - the kids at the really good state engineering schools would have an overall advantage. However, I think someone else pointed out that starting salaries were pretty much equivalent (chem. Eng. is in high demand currently - or was a couple years ago). So . . . it depends. As someone trained in economics, I’m very much aware of the signalling value of a particular, selective program. But it’s also possible to build reputation by throwing a ton of money at the university (UT did just that once upon a time and has been considered an excellent research uni. for awhile now). So the dynamics and players can certainly change - it’s probably not a quick process (as reputation capital is very hard to build up and a uni. can coast on an outdated reputation for years before starting to feel any negative effects).
These are tough calls and a fine line for all involved. I hope UMTC does not close the door, so to speak, for OOS students. No doubt these are sharp kids who have helped boost the reputation and diversity of the university.
Now, will my kid get in!?
I am the mom of a junior at Carlson. He is having a wonderful experience and I have no doubt that the UMN was the best decision for him. He has been given, and taken advantage of many opportunities, including performing at the Super Bowl as a member of the Marching Band! His international experience in Shanghai was not only interesting, but very relevant to his Supply Chain Management major.
That said, as an Ohio resident, I am grateful that he was able, as a 2015 HS graduate, to receive a tuition discount to bring his tuition down to the in-state rate. If he did not receive sufficient merit aid, it is likely that he would have chosen another school. He did turn down a full-tuition plus scholarship at Miami University (one of our in-state options). At Carlson he is surrounded by many other high-achieving students and I am sure that another well-qualified student would have taken his spot if he did not attend. It truly is a matter of weighing all of your options and choosing the best - including an option that fits within your budget.
OP - you seem as though you are a highly-qualified applicant with many good choices. UMN is a great school - but there are many great schools! I agree that cost is, and should be, a factor for most applicants. Best of luck to you!
@ohmomof2boys - did you all face any significant OOS increases in '16 and '17 from the tuition hikes or were you grandfathered in? Also, your son’s scholarship was specifically for covering the “tuition differential” as opposed to as set amount so he was protected from those increases, is that correct? Trying to remember how it all worked before the hikes.
That window now seems gone. That’s not to say UMN won’t come up with other ways to attract top students. Anyone who is NM potential, for instance, is eligible for the $10,000 Gold (and if OOS will typically get the $10,000 National and a presidential stacked on top!). My D - in-state - was NM and was offered the equivalent of free tuition through the Gold and a presidential award, but the OOS NM’s her year were offered more so that their tuition was covered as well. So a lot just depends on what you qualify for.
@JBStillFlying - yes, the wording of the scholarship is that he receives the difference between in-state and out-of-state tuition (the “tuition differential”)- so we are indeed protected. I believe his was the last class to receive that type of scholarship - but I could be wrong.