Leaving H.S. Early -- Points To Consider

<p>just my own perspective on this.</p>

<p>Even though I had enough credits to graduate by my junior year, I felt it was better to stay on for my senior year. I did this because in CA any hs student can take any cc course for FREE. Thus, I have managed to get 27 UC approved credits under my belt. Also, I had fun at my hs because I got to leave schools at around 10 am while others had to stay for the full day. I would suggest any others in a similar situation to consider doing the same.</p>

<p>PS. I have been taking advantage of free cc classes since the summer of 10th grade. By the time I graduate, I will have had 41 units of college credit under my belt!</p>

<p>Also just the fact that you are in a cc environment is a good learning experience. I had friends who didnt necessarily share my background and learned a lot from them. In addition, its a good transition between hs and 4 year colleges. I though I was "all that" in hs, but my first class I got a C in(Precal). But I didnt quit. I went on to get an A in Calculus from OSU(online) and a B in Multivariable Integral Calculus from Stanford(online)</p>

<p>i am one of those who chose to graduate early (i graduate this may!). Your daughter and I share some reasons: The people at my school are obsessed with superficial things, and as long as they get an A, they don't care whether or not they learn anything. They don't appreciate learning and have driven one of the best teachers i have ever had into retirement. I can certainly understand the want to get away from people like this. However, the main reason I've decided to graduate early is that i suffered a loss 4 years ago, and the void has never been filled. Some call it running away, i see it as moving on, whatever people think, i'm happier knowing that I'm going to be getting a fresh start in less that 6 months rather than looking forward to a senior year. Unless your D feels an intense need to leave, she should stay for her senior year. I've had to make sacrifices. I don't know whether or not i'll regret it, but when i made my decision, I felt missing senior year, waiting for prestige with grad school, having to go through some additional adjustment due to age differences, losing the feeling of belonging to a certain class, and whatever else was worth avoiding a nervous breakdown (which i did experience during sophomore year, so i knew it could happen again) and finally getting a fresh start.</p>

<p>My son went through this last June. On the way to a college visit, he expressed an overwhelming feeling that he was ready to move on. He had taken many AP classes as a junior, and felt that the learning essentially ended with the AP exams. Our school does not get out until June 10. When considering his next year's schedule he felt he had reached the point of diminishing returns. He was also very ready to set his music education into high gear and felt he needed to be among musicians to do this. We live an hour from the largest city where he could find a musical peer group. He had enough credits to graduate, but was missing a couple 1/2 credit requirements like P.E., Mass Media, a Gov. Class and an English class. Because of low interest, a few of the advanced classes he would have used to fulfill requirements were cancelled meaning he would have to take regular level courses. In our school, this would have made for a miserable learning experience.</p>

<p>He was 16, had played three years of varsity tennis, would have had little opportunity to hold a leadership position because of the demands of music study, had gone to the junior prom with a date, had his driver's license and had taken the PSAT, SAT, SATII's and ACT. He was quite sure he would qualify to be a National Merit Scholar Finalist. (he did, but did not receive an award) They said that lack of a diploma was no problem if he qualified for entrance and that once one receives a bachelor's degree the point would be moot. (I asked for help on CC the minute I got home that night and received very valuable advice that helped us make a decision.)
My son consulted his English teacher and HS guidance counselor who both said, "Go for it, there's little left here for you." Within about 14 days he had applied, auditioned, and received admission and a scholarship. He decided to enroll. </p>

<p>{I will preface the following by saying that in hindsight, we truly believe it would have been extremely counterproductive for our son to have stayed in high school this year and he is grateful for having had the opportunity to move on. After much discussion last summer, we approached our school board and surprisingly enough they were willing to accept his college classes in place of the missing requirements. He will finish his college finals and come home to graduate with his original class}</p>

<p>These are the issues he encountered as an early admit:
1. No one cared how old he was. Some knew but never made an issue of it.
2. He was never excluded from activities because of his age (or preference not to drink or smoke) nor was he pressured to take part in anything he didn't want to do. However, he did say that he was disappointed that students who are paying so much for an education are willing to party away so much of their time. On the flip side, he prefers the pot smokers to the drinkers because they are not as loud and don't throw up in the hall.
3. He gets along great with his roommate, a 19-year-old international student.
4. He has thrived in both the academic and music environment.
5. He has not missed his family or high school friends and only comes home for the big school breaks.
*6. He's only 2 1/2 hours away and his dad and I would visit often if we could, but he's too busy.
7. He carried some time management issues with him to college and has been learning how to work them out.
8. We needed to sign a lot of releases for retreats and off campus performances because of his age.
9. He has found extracurricular activities and different groups of friends with whom he shares his different interests.
10. He loved having a fresh start and meeting people from a variety of backgrounds. </p>

<p>Now the negative:
1. About six weeks into the term, he felt remorse that he hadn't taken a shot at one of the more elite LAC's and Conservatories. Among other things, he had one prof. that was not inspiring and a class where the students were not engaged. He focused on getting out, which diminished his newfound enjoyment. We supported his desire to apply to his dream school because of his dual enrolled status; he could technically apply as an incoming freshman. The hard part was telling his piano teacher and getting prepared for an audition.
2. He did not get in to the conservatory and was waitlisted at the college.
Here is the really hard part: we are nearly sure that he would have gotten into both had he waited. We took the chance and it didn't work out.
3. The positive side is that he's still at a fine school, he has great friends who he would have had a hard time leaving, is finished with the freshman classes and has figured out most of the good profs. to take classes with. </p>

<p>He got over the rejection much faster than my husband and I and still feels that early admission was the best solution for his senior year. </p>

<p>If we had to do this over, while we didn't think we could afford it, we should have considered the advice of some CC parents and looked at Interlochen both for its music and academic programs. Many of my son's current friends are Interlochen graduates and they are very independent and well prepared for college. My son was just so focused on getting out of high school that none of us took the time to consider other options. </p>

<p>I'm sorry this is so long, but I am sure there may be other high school juniors out there that might be experiencing the same thing. I hope others can gain something from our experience.</p>

<p>My daughter left a year early. She completed her high school degree though.</p>

<p>Pros: enter a new environment that she is clearly ready for. Assuming that's the case.
Cons: Miss out on being the "big fish" senior year.</p>

<p>My daughter misses some of her high school friends, but I'm not sure she would trade them for the new friends she's made at college.</p>

<p>She would have been very bored at high school if she stayed. A wasted year. She would have had to take courses she had no interest in, because they didn't have much left in the advanced category that she hadn't already taken.</p>

<p>In terms of college admission I don't know. She did get turned down by the school on her list that was the very most selective. Would staying an extra year have made the difference? Personally in her case I don't think so. If she stayed she would have had a bad attitude and probably wouldn't have done any better academically, to a degree that would have made any significant difference. Just a guess.</p>

<p>my response is strictly from a parent of multiples perspective. If one wants to go early to college it will allow you to really concentrate on each twin's college search and selection. And as you look to the future imagine having twins with exactly the same move-in/move-out dates at different schools and even the same graduation dates! It can happen. It does happen. Imagine having to toss a coin to see which parent goes to which graduation! I very much like the idea of twins deciding on their own to enter college during different years. It may allow each of them to get a whole lot more individual attention. Best of luck!</p>

<p>Bbl, good points. I also was thinking that it might be easier on the family budget to space things out, especially with CD's older son in college too.</p>

<p>Although this is a thread from years ago, I need some advice. I feel very much like pianomom’s son did. I would like to graduate early from high school with the class of 2012 due to more reasons than I can list (but read on please). I am a current junior with a 4.2 GPA (GIEP in Art with an IQ of 136) who does winter/spring track, Girl Scouts, Art Lessons (and I also teach at the art studio as a job), Student Council, Key Club, Interim Club, and I am in different art organizations outside of school. My school has not given out the senior projects yet and I am taking the SAT on November 5th. I also have volunteered on my own with 240 hours since freshman year. I have taken as many honors classes as I can so far in high school (including a class called “Great Books” last year which is an equivalent to 12th grade english. It is a prerequisite to AP enlgish for senior year. But I also had 10th grade honors english in the same year) I need 22 credits to graduate and I would have 21.75 by the end of junior year. The only requirements I haven’t fulfilled class-wise would be another social studies/or social studies elective and senior gym. I’ve heard that your senior year gym can get waived though. If I took a social studies elective class online I believe that would fulfill my classes and credit requirements as set by my school district. I have yet to ask my parents (who say I should enjoy high school). Some reasons why I would like to graduate are mental maturity and because I’d only have 2 required classes next year (Great Books counts as a fourth year english class). I always feel kind of strange at school since I’ve always been more mature for my age and I (and other adults I know) feel that I would be ready to start college a year early so I can get “ahead of the game”. This would help me to be academically challenged/feel more fulfilled with school knowing that I am not wasting time of petty, not useful high school classes (yes senior gym and home ec are a couple of them). My plan is to go to my local communtiy college for Social Science with a minor in Art for two years then transfer to another college (possibly Marywood in Scranton, Pa.) for my masters in Art Therapy. Or do my as many courses at I can at Penn State Main Campus to save on money before going to Marywood (both Penn State and LCCC are far cheaper than Marywood). On a side note about being mentally mature…I meant that i am not one for the “waaaah my shoe’s untied the world’s going to end” or “come and fight me, girl”. I just steer away from drama/complaining/slacking with school or life. It’s hard to describe my maturity but I’m sure any of you who are on this blog would probably understand what I mean. I also am very used to an extremely heavy workload and busy schedule in and out of school. When I sent a request slip to have a meeting with my Guidance Counselor, i put the reason as “Questions about graduating early”. The sad thing is that she called me during Trig class and said “Oh honey we don’t do that here, even though youre ontop of your credits and extracurriculars you need to do four years. I’ll just give you some extra electives for your senior year.” HA, more electives with slower kids, thanks mrs. guidance counselor. Anyways, I didnt know what to say back to her since I know of a kid last year from my school who graduated a year early. He said that he took courses over the previous summer since he was behind on requirements. So do I need to petition to graduate early (how does that work?) or combine my senior year with my college freshman year? I’ll stop at that so I do not write too much, but any suggestions or advice would be extremely appreciated. Nervousness is filling my brain about what you’ve written on petitioning to graduate a year early and also I am worried about what my parents will say and how i can accomplish this. Thank you to anybody that responds!!</p>

<p>My DD could have graduated early but she decided to stick it out for her senior year due to a varsity sport and choir. We opted to have her attend a local state university and she took a total of 6 classes on campus. In addition, she took a PSEO class on her high school campus. Was a great step for us dollar wise. Saved us over $10,000 in tuition and all of her books were paid for. She enjoyed her classes, met lots of great people and had a fun senior year. The courses have transferred well.</p>

<p>ndelevan, it sounds like you have talked to your GC but not your parents about this question. You need to review this with your parents before you go any further.</p>