<p>I'll be transferring from a community college to a 4 year. I've actually been to a 4 year and left my attendence/transcripts out when I transferred to another community college. The difference is at the current community college I did not try to get any financial aid/grants etc. If I transfer back to a 4 year will they be able to find out I attended that 1st 4 year if I apply for financial aid even though what I owed was paid off to that school years ago. I do not want to send the transcripts from that school as it could affect my GPA etc. So basically I'm wondering what my chances are of getting caught if I do not include the transcripts or attendance from that school. Most colleges now put on the admissions that if you do not report all schools attended they will potentially deny your admission. Anyway I've done it once, wondering if financial aid or some database the colleges use could make this a problem. I'd like to hear from someone who works in an admissions office or may have encountered the same ordeal.</p>
<p>I know plenty of people who have transferred successfully to a university from CC that left out previous college work on their applications. </p>
<p>Personally, I wouldn't do it. If they find out somehow, you may get kicked out or your degree revoked. </p>
<p>I'm in a similar situation as you. I took one college course in high school when I was 15 and now I'm regretting it.</p>
<p>There is a national data base up since 1996 that would have records on any college attendence between then and now. The website also lists financial aid information on it.</p>
<p>If you apply for federal aid, you need to have previous loans and grants disclosed, which would mean that a financial aid transcript would be required from each school you got financial support from for any study.</p>
<p>If you're not flagged during the admissions process (since you took classes before 1996), you'll be flagged if you apply for aid. The reason is that financial aid forms use your SS#, and if they have that number, they can access the national data base.</p>
<p>I would'nt try to game the system, but that is your call.</p>
<p>This is the link: <a href="http://www.studentclearinghouse.org%5B/url%5D">www.studentclearinghouse.org</a></p>
<p>If you are currently enrolled, you should be able to get into your records via your college's website for free.</p>
<p>What if you never finished the semester so there are no grades?</p>
<p>If you withdrew, they still need a transcript. That is fine.</p>
<p>If you just stopped going to classes, then they will still want to have the transcript. If you have compelling reasons for not completing the term and have gotten good grades since then in a year or more of study at another school, then it is okay, since they look for upward grade trends.</p>
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<p>If you made a low grade in that class, I think you can request that it be counted as high-school only and not counted as a college credit. That's how it works with dual-credit.</p>
<p>If you made a high grade, then it would look good that you were so young and should be counted.</p>
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<p>What if you went to one college for semester as a visiting student and did terribly, then left and went to another school and did extremely well? Would you try to leave off that first terrible semester or suck it up? Granted, acknowledging it will severly hurt your GPA. What do you do? Oh and you recieved no finanical aid at that other school...</p>
<p>Just a question, how many credits at your second school? I assume 60 semester hours or 90 quarter hours before transfer.</p>
<p>If that is the case, then figure out why you didn't do very well while a visiting student, and use one of the essay sections to explain why (eg. not feeling a part of the college, living off campus, responsibilities at home, etc...).</p>
<p>If you have a year or less at your current school, I'd do at least 1.5 years (45 semester or 60 quarter credits) as a minimum, or your first attempt will be taken more seriously.</p>
<p>I'd say include the transcripts...because if the school ever finds out, they will take away your degree, no matter how well you did, plus face fraud charges. Why risk that?</p>
<p>I've never heard of anything like that, lealdragon. Will it work if I want to transfer to a UC? How would I go about doing it?</p>
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If you apply for federal aid, you need to have previous loans and grants disclosed, which would mean that a financial aid transcript would be required from each school you got financial support from for any study.</p>
<p>If you're not flagged during the admissions process (since you took classes before 1996), you'll be flagged if you apply for aid. The reason is that financial aid forms use your SS#, and if they have that number, they can access the national data base.</p>
<p>I would'nt try to game the system, but that is your call.
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<p>isn't the admissions process separate from the financial aid department?</p>
<p>say you apply to a UC , they must review 10's of thousands of applications, i don't really believe they have the time and resources to background check all the universities we've enrolled at, especially since many of us have enrolled in more than one college.</p>
<p>and pretend that the financial aid dept does find out that you've been to another 4 yr university, how would they know that you left out that information on your admissions application? by the time they find out you're already admitted</p>
<p>from the standpoint of the financial aid dept. all they know is, that you're a student who attended x,y,z colleges and obviously got grades good enough to be accepted.</p>
<p>Not all schools aid departments are seperate from admissions.</p>
<p>The problem is that he would leave out one of the schools, which would show up if he applies for aid.</p>
<p>And, the school, at any time, can take away the degree or expell the student. It would suck to have a BA yanked after going through all the work...and they'll likely contact the other school, which may do the same.</p>
<p>Well, one interesting thing was when I tried to get my current school to look up my grades at the visiting school, they couldn't find them. I hope it stays that way, lol! Also, after I finish this semester I'll have 31hrs at my current school so basically a sophomore transfer. If I wait until I get 45hrs I will have to wait until Fall 08 (or maybe Spring 07 at a few schools) to transfer. ACK! I really don't want to do that. :/</p>
<p>If I did have to explain I suppose I could use Hurricane Katrina trauma. :|</p>
<p>Hi, I know this is an extremely old thread that I am bumping but I have a question re: leaving out a school as a transfer student. It has been mentioned that if the student applies for aid that the school will be alerted to any and all other schools attended. Is this only the case if someone applies for aid? If he/she does not apply for aid, would the school ever find out?</p>