Legacy chances at Cornell

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My nephew, double legacy at Stanford, with 3.9 GPA and 2300 SAT, was just rejected (not deferred).

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<p>An out and out ED rejection? What with my 3.8/2260 SAT legacy D applying RD, that is the most depressing thing I've seen at CC in a long time.</p>

<p>Do you know with certitude that his UW GPA was 3.9? What was the weighted? Was the SAT exactly 2300?</p>

<p>If legacies with a 3.9 GPA and a 2300 SAT whose applications don't originate from Corcoran State Prison are being rejected ED, then the whole legacy deal doesn't appear to be worth much.</p>

<p>I think it's worth more than that at Cornell. If you apply ED.</p>

<p>To me, there is certainly a glimmer, at very least, but the extent depends on what the GCs say about how your grades will be viewed.</p>

<p>My daughter attended the Summer 08 film class and has an interest in creative writing. I would highly recommend that you take this if that is your interest. It will give you a feel if Cornell is right for you and help you see if you truly are interested. Also I believe it can't hurt in the decision process as CU will see that your knowledge if more then what your legacy status brings you. BTW, my daughter is also legacy and got into CAS ED this year. You still need the scores, grades and extras, but you don't miss anything by not attending the Summer program.</p>

<p>I am pretty confident that Cornell is aware of the tough course load I am taking at my school and that the school is well known too. I take two languages..Latin and Honors Spanish (no AP offered until senior year) and Honors Calc (again no AP offered yet) as well as AP English Lit. We had an ED this year also legacy and I hope to find out her stats...thanks for the encouragement.</p>

<p>cusprint...would you be comfortable sharing her stats?</p>

<p>Most private schools do not rank or calculate GPAs. The purpose is to confuse adcoms (that's no joke). They want adcoms to look at their students holistically. GC will send in a profile of the school to help adcoms evaluate the applicant relative to other students. It is similar to Cornell's median grades concept. When OP says he is in the top 10% with a 3.3, is that on the transcript? Only your GC from your school would know what your 3.3 means in applying to Cornell.</p>

<p>JW Muller - in all fairness, there is nothing special about my nephew, great all around kid, varsity track (not ranked), goes to a private school down south (not well known). I think with Stanford legacy is only a tipping point.</p>

<p>My good friend's son also from a well known private school in NYC, with 3.7 and 34 ACT applied to Cornell AEM last year ED, got deferred and finally a GT.</p>

<p>It is pretty rare to take the ACT in the NYC private school sector...they actually discourage it at my school so I find that a little curious</p>

<p>top 10% at a <em>truly</em> elite NYC prep school like Collegiate, Dalton, and Horace Mann would practically guarantee acceptance to Cornell. the top 10% student at these schools typically matriculates at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, or (god forbid) Columbia. the problem is that every private school in NYC claims to be elite...</p>

<p>Top 10%
32 ACT (35 English)
2120 SAT (730 CR)
8 AP Classes (4 this year)
AP English score of 5
AP US History score of 4
Involved in student gov and varsity sports</p>

<p>I would add a couple more to that "elite" list as I see you do not mention any girls schools...one of which had triple ED Harvard out of a class of less than 50 very recently.</p>

<p>CUSPRINT...GPA? Only if you do not mind please</p>

<p>3.83 unweighted
4.29 weighted</p>

<p>ACT has become a lot more acceptable, even Yale would accept it in place of SAT IIs. My friend's son got mid 2100 for SAT, and he went to Dalton. He took the most advanced math in HS, it effected his GPA. Not sure if it is always a good strategy to take the hardest courses - AP calculus is necessary, but multivariable calculus (questionable).</p>

<p>All very interesting...always felt it may not be best to take some honors courses that overall affect GPA but they do weight higher in my school's calculations. CUSPRINT...very impressive indeed. I am still unclear what the difference between unweighted and weighted is. And I also see how the ACT is taken in place of the subject tests...but my school is still the old fashioned SAT/2 or 3 SATII's so far...</p>

<p>"Only your GC from your school would know what your 3.3 means in applying to Cornell."</p>

<p>Possibly not. The school undoubtedly has applicants to Cornell every year, and based on those people Cornell may also know what the GPA means. And if they don't already kow, the GC might have actual relations with admissions people there and tell them. The school wants to get their kids in, but on the other hand it doesn't want to be sending them duds; it can reflect back.</p>

<p>"I would add a couple more to that "elite" list"</p>

<p>Perhaps at least we can agree it probably needs to be one of these:</p>

<p>Regis, Horace Mann,, Collegiate, Brearly,Trinity, Fieldston, Spence, Dalton, Saint Ann's, Friends, Riverdale, Ramaz, Columbia Grammar, Chapin, Poly Prep, Nightingale-Bamford, Elizabeth Irwin, Packer Collegiate, Rudolph Steiner, UNIS. </p>

<p>That's ignoring Hunter and Stuyvesant.</p>

<p>UNIS? Columbia Grammar? Surprising to hear they would be considered in the same league at Collegiate...as well as some others you list and I would still add a couple more but what is the difference really? There are many great schools that send plenty of kids to Cornell and all the Ivy's but some are just a bit more rigorous than others. Thanks for all your input.</p>

<p>what's the difference? my friend, when you apply to an Ivy League school with a 3.3 gpa, the rigor/prestige of your high school is everything.</p>

<p>Of course it is...I was trying to be polite and not insult anyone who may go to one of those schools...I have no delusions and know what I am up against but also feel that coming from my school may give me a little bump in addition to the legacy factor.</p>

<p>Moneydad, I may be slow, but I don't understand what is it you disagree with my statement.</p>

<p>M-O-N-Y.</p>

<p>Not $$$$.</p>

<p>Sorry don't know how to restate any more clearly.</p>

<p>"UNIS? Columbia Grammar?"</p>

<p>I just said it probably needed to be someplace on this list. I was being expansive. Draw the line where you will. Cut it off before Friends?? Your call.</p>