<p>Byerly - why did you lie about the Levin quote?</p>
<p>It would appear than at both H and P there are more obstacles between non-legacies and admittance (compared to Y).</p>
<p>YaleDad</p>
<p>Definitely apply EA to Yale if Yale is your daughter's clear first choice. The legacy tip is tangible, regardless of past contributions, achievements, status, or anything else. The temptation to apply EA or ED to some other school might make sense if your daughter were only marginally competitive for Yale and/or had a single very strong second choice. There will certainly be acceptances at other fine schools in the end, but your daughter sounds competitive enough that legacy status might make the difference at Yale.</p>
<p>But be realistic, as it sounds that you are. Many legacies who are fully qualified to attend Yale are denied each year. Your daughter needs to know and fully understand this from the very beginning. It is definitely worth the risk, but prepare for disappointment.</p>
<pre><code>The following is from an alumni note in the YAM.
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<p>Dear classmates: This spring my extraordinary and very qualified son was not admitted into Yale despite his stellar SAT scores, his outstanding accomplishments, his great grades, his teachers' excellent recommendations, and his fervent desire since early childhood to attend Yale. I am disappointed and angry at Yale beyond words --- and beyond what is appropriate for someone holding a class leadership position. So, although I regret having to make this decision, I am resigning as your secretary. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to serve you, a role I have always enjoyed. Best regards to all.</p>
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Byerly - why did you lie about the Levin quote?
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I don't know about getting you kicked off CC, but deliberately tampering with a quote to bolster an argument could get you kicked out of most reputable colleges. (I'll eschew the obvious Harvard joke here.)</p>
<p>I think Yale.edu's question deserves an answer.</p>
<p>as for Yale, see...</p>
<p>Byerly,</p>
<p>After lying, now you are referring people to an anonymous user of College Confidential who simply mistyped or misquote. The legacy acceptance rate is put at 30 percent by the Levin quote you lied about and is put at 29 percent in this Herald article. </p>
<p>I doubt that CC post is a credible source. It reminds me of a movie I just watched.. about the journalist that made up all his facts.</p>
<p>From the article that you sourced..</p>
<p>"Last year, 29 percent of legacy applicants were accepted, compared to 13 percent in the overall pool. This 2-to-1 ratio in admit rates is typical across the Ivy League."</p>
<p>hardly 40%.</p>
<p>This 2-to-1 ratio in admit rates is typical across the Ivy League.</p>
<p>Actually it's funny that Byerly actually linked that, because Harvard is an exception in that there is a 4-to-1 ratio in admit rates between legacies and non-legacies there.</p>
<p>The Levin quote came from another cite.</p>
<p>Oh, what site is that? Forgot how to link? And also, you specifically said it came from Y.A.M. Oops... forgot you said this, didn't you: From Y.A.M. (with "L" being Levin).</p>
<p>OUCH</p>
<p>You are bright and fearsome attackers!</p>
<p>Byerly, I suggest you answer why you lied to these irate bulldogs, else they start posting this thread link on your beloved harvard discussion boards. Doctoring an article as you did would have had you expelled from Harvard.</p>
<p>Indeed. And I now see the link. </p>
<p>So he said 14% of the class were legacies, and that there was a 30% admit rate for, presumably, the Class of 2008.</p>
<p>Where's that link, Byerly? Hmmmmm...</p>
<p>No explanation, Byerly? None at all?</p>
<p>Even I am at a loss right now. I used to question alot of what Byerly would say when he had inside knoweldge on non-published admission stats - Now I definitely don't believe him. When he cites a figure, fine; but no more taking his word for it. His is a most egregious offense indeed and I will assuredly post this thread for all to see when he trolls on other boards.</p>
<p>I as well, am no longer taking his word for it.</p>
<p>I think since Byerly already said 40% in post #8, he didn't want to correct himself and risk sounding stupid, so he changed the quote with hopes that we Yalemongers are too dumb to find where his quote came from. I did a google search with his version of the quote ("The admissions rate for legacies is about 40 percent" with quotation marks and all -- <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22The+admissions+rate+for+legacies+is+about+40+percent%22%5B/url%5D">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22The+admissions+rate+for+legacies+is+about+40+percent%22</a>)... no other site is to be found anywhere on this blessed Internet. Hmm, his plan of not looking stupid has clearly backfired.</p>
<p>EDIT: I also just noticed that he didn't cite where his quote came from, as he does in all of his other information-granting posts. I thought that was strange when I first saw it.</p>
<p>I just searched Yahoo too, and several others. If the so-called other site exists, it is Byerly's Geocities page. And it probably hasn't been written yet, but maybe he'll link to it when he done writing it. I bet that's what he's doing right now.</p>
<p>Hey Byerly, if you need any help with HTML, just let me know. If I might suggest a good background color for you: #990000. It's pretty close to your beloved crimson.</p>
<p>Oh and that obsure article that he found on CC was posted in March 2003, so clearly those are old stats. (EDIT) It's the year 2005, Byerly! My nearly senile lit teacher the other day said we are now in the year 2001... maybe you two have something in common.</p>
<p>... and the YDN article was from 2002 - the CC post sounds like heresay.</p>
<p>YaleDad,
you might want to look at the results thread for this year's Yale EA or else check back here in April for the results that the applicants post. It will give you a realistic picture of what may happen. Many unbelievably bright and talented kids don't get in. Legacy may play a part, but it's not a BIG part. My son was just deferred in the EA round as were 5 of the 6 at our highly competitive public school. (the 6th was rej.) Four of the five are legacy applicants and all are top students. My son has a 3.76 unweighted GPA, 4.45 weighted, has 4 SAT IIs between 730 and 770, SATs of 800 & 750, National Merit semifinalist and national piano performance experience, etc. His grandfather, great grandfather and great uncle are all Yale grads. Somehow, even knowing about this competition ahead of time doesn't fully prepare you for the pressure of going thru this. Sorry to sound negative, but just to give you a heads up. This is not a process for the faint of heart. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>lol wow byerly has been tossed from his throne!</p>
<p>how did this happen lolll i had so much faith in him/her/it</p>
<p>i guess you can just never trust anyone now can you...</p>
<p>Do most legacies apply ED/EA? </p>
<p>Along with the athletes and other recruits?</p>