<p>eli:
ahhhh....</p>
<p>Just wondering..... We weren't thinking of trying it. Just thought about it when I read the above post where the kid lamented applying ED instead of regular admissions.</p>
<p>elphaba:</p>
<p>Congrats on your $$$ of BYU</p>
<p>Awesome :)</p>
<p>The Wall Street Journal ran article a while back (1 or 2 yrs) about the effect of donations in helping get your child admitted to college. They concluded that unless you've given $50,000. or more to the school, your donations will not benficially effect the admissions process.</p>
<p>maybe we've reached the point where kids will be on the wait list because the school wants them and not as a courtesy because they had legacy.</p>
<p>nice idea, isn't it?</p>
<p>jlauer95 - regarding your question about kids applying RD after an ED rejection - I can't imagine any kid who would do want to do that. The kids I've known who were rejected by a school tend not to like that school and move on. Paying a second application fee sounds masochistic. I think most applications ask if the person has ever applied before, too.</p>
<p>On another thread, I have told about a story of a young guy 17, who attemped suicide apparently over his rejection from Cornell where he had legacy and was expected to be a shoe in. Its ashame but thankfully it had a happy ending, he is alive. My mom knows the family and this was all very recent but it did put things in perspective for many of us in the community and those in his school. Very tragic, but lets all keep this real..........we will all go to school. I got waitlisted by BU/BC, a bummer but what can you do? I am now concentrating on the great schools I got into.</p>
<p>I believe that it is no coincidence that the shift away from the practice of courtesy deferrals has corresponded to the rise in popularity of the ED2 option. As several posters have already pointed out, being kept waiting on an ED 1 school is no favor to the student whose best chances of acceptance may very well be in the ED 2 round.<br>
I think there may have even been a lawsuit threatened over this very issue several years ago.</p>
<p>There's simply no such thing as a shoo-in (am I spelling it right, or is it really "shoe" ?) for the elite schools any more, legacy or no.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if there was some kind of study done that showed that legacies with lower stats had a higher rate of failing, dropping out, or whatever? I don't know of one, but thought that maybe colleges were tired of giving spots to people who had a higher chance of failing... </p>
<p>Or... perhaps there have been too many legacies who have only applied to their parents' colleges as a courtesy to their parents and then they say "no" to the school once the acceptances came in.</p>
<p>During the interview process, do the interviewers of legacies try to find out if the kid is "really" interested in attending or just applying because "mom (or dad) made him apply?</p>
<p>just a thought.</p>
<p>In re: contributions - we have a good friend who's family recently donated $1 million to UPenn, their S was an ED WL and hasn't moved off the list.</p>
<p>EhNonymous, If your friend's son applied ED, then he was deferred rather than waitlisted. All deferred students hear back at the same time as RD applicants, March 30 -tomorrow, actually. At that point he could be either accepted, rejected or waitlisted. The $1 million donation certainly earned him developmental admit status and a good second look, but no guarantees.</p>
<p>jlauer95,
"During the interview process, do the interviewers of legacies try to find out if the kid is "really" interested in attending or just applying because "mom (or dad) made him apply?"</p>
<p>At least a couple of the alumni interviewers on CC have mentioned this. When this information is included in the interview report, the student is not accepted.</p>
<p>"Who's family recently donated $1 million", family as in his parents or his extended family"? </p>
<p>A recent donation to me is more like a bribe. Having had many years of donating large sums of money is more sincere and probably comes across as so.</p>
<p>You know, my guess would be that a million bucks is a million bucks, whether it comes in ten years of $100,000/year or one big chunk! And my next guess would be that many schools can be bribed--and that the size of the necessary bribe is proportional to the size of the endowment.</p>
<p>I am going to disagree with you on this one. I think a one time donation of that kind of money (assuming they have not been long time supporters) right before the applicant sent in their application would have the total opposite effect on this student's admission outcome. These are not supporters of the school, they are buyers -- one time buyers at that.</p>
<p>If colleges are in the process of giving less weight to legacy status I applaud them. It is hard to argue that increased reliance on this factor would make for a better and fairer process. The legacy factor is an undesirable relic of outdated systems of self perpetuation. Its survival is based on the realities of college fundraising. This does not justify it but makes it even worse.</p>
<p>This seems a little weird to me, Tufts is supposed to be harder to get into than Boston University. I got waitlisted at Tufts where I'm not a legacy, and got rejected at BU where I am. Maybe being a legacy doesn't matter that much. It's not a big deal though since I got into a lot of schools that I like a lot better than BU, but it seemed a little strange.</p>
<p>I guess we can now join the ranks of legacy "half-rejects"....i.e. son was waitlisted at Brown. Possibly a polite rejection?? I'm not sure, since I have half a dozen other alum friends whose kids were rejected outright. These were not low stat kids.</p>
<p>I just got rejected from NYU and I had a double legacy there (both parents). In all honesty, I didn't expect to get in, but at least a waitlisting would have been nice, I guess. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be happy wherever I wind up going!</p>
<p>^ There is no waitlist at NYU.. I guess they ddnt accept you cause you didnt seem interested in the school, seeing that you ddnt know about the waitlist thing</p>
<p>A one million dollar donation gives an applicant an equivalent 100 point boost in SAT scores, so depending on the applicant's best SAT score, a higher donation may be required to get the scores up to the level required for admission. :)</p>
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