<p>I can't speak for her, but you were coming off as a whiny-ass little brat with a sense of entitlement, yadidi?</p>
<p>Agreed. Can definitely see her point if you were going to spend that money for outings or other ways of burning money.</p>
<p>By the way, the official position (that I know of anyways) the university is that they don't monitor your usage but they will fully comply and hand you over if any complaints are received.</p>
<p>As for tvlinks (which site provides in-theater movies anyway???), well I don't know what to make of this entry from the ORL tech blog maintained by RLCC's: <a href="http://lab.orl.ucla.edu/blog/comments.php?UID=133%5B/url%5D">http://lab.orl.ucla.edu/blog/comments.php?UID=133</a>. Not that what they say means anything, but then again, it hasn't been removed.</p>
<p>And alpha... what would be considered embracing 21st century technology?</p>
<p>ok, fine, like i said, im just a bit depressed since my friends are gone...sorry guys. i will stop whining now...</p>
<p><em>sobbing</em></p>
<p>easy... download stuff onto your home computer off a remote connection (limewire, torrents... whatever) and then transfer (ie download) from your home computer. Unless of course the size of the transfer flags you down for further investigation...?</p>
<p>They don't track size of transfers. If you can get a remote connection working, I'm sure you shouldn't have problems with evasion.</p>
<p>I just got my first warning for using Limewire for downloading just one song about a week or more ago (nelly furtado - all good things). I downloaded a few more (like 3 or 4) since that first time until now...though they aren't from such high profile artists, so I don't know if they'll be caught too. Does anyone know if each individual song, if they are caught, could be counted as a "strike" against me?</p>
<p>I know I shouldn't have used Limewire...I was feeling lazy...not a good excuse
:(</p>
<p>I heard 36 ppl got caught and charged for $750 per song</p>
<p>If it's by a different artist, each one would be counted as a strike. If it's the same artist at around the same time, it will probably be one strike.</p>
<p>Im surprised you actually downloaded after you got caught. We got caught and we even stopped downloading obscure things such as asian dramas and anime.</p>
<p>i had my friend transfer me songs through AIM/MSN messenger.. about 4 songs total, and i've received no warnings/penalty.</p>
<p>AIM.. is not something they look at.</p>
<p>Altema,
I just received the notification today, but I downloaded the 1st song a week or so ago. UCLA was just notified by the RIAA today and I got the warning like an hour later. I downloaded a few other songs in the days following the 1st time.</p>
<p>****...I hope they don't catch those other songs...</p>
<p>Can't people just go to a Starbucks where the wifi is free and unmonitored, write some papers for classes, and download to their heart's content?</p>
<p>How do they send you the notification? Email? I've downloaded quite a number of TV shows off my private site.</p>
<p>they actually tell you what song they got you for?</p>
<p>I got an email from the Dean's office.</p>
<p>vtec, the RIAA gives the details (infringing work, filename, date/time found, filesize, IP address, port, network, protocol) in their original complaint notice sent to ucla. ucla included this original complaint in their email to me.</p>
<p>WHAT I CAN PIECE TOGETHER FROM THE OFFICIAL POLICY AND AMONG OTHER THINGS, THIS THREAD:</p>
<p>From what i've read on the official housing policy on this sort of thing, UCLA does NOT keep track of your bandwidth usage or the IP's you visit or connect to, or what kind of stuff you browse for, or even what you download via bittorrent or limewire. They don’t know. THEY don’t care. Here’s the official FAQ/policy</p>
<p>All right there, set in stone. The URL was in the Pepsi lunch bag with the other usless paperwork they give you when you move in.</p>
<p>So UCLA doesn’t keep track. Who does? The Man does. And He’s watching UCLA like a hawk, because we’re a BIG FAT JUICY TARGET. The biggest problem is that when you're using UCLA as your ISP (as anyone who accesses the ResNet's fabulous internet connection is) it sticks out like a sore thumb when using clients for bittorrent, or limewire, or the like. It shows up as #########.resnet.ucla.edu</p>
<p>For torrent downloads, I use uTorrent. When I’m downloading, it lists the IPs of every peer and every seed i am connected to, the upload and download speeds of content to/from him/her, what files we’re transferring, and a little flag to tell me what country they are from. And they see roughly the same thing, only I’M on their list. </p>
<p>So they know my IP. Big deal. So what?</p>
<p>Well, you can get a A LOT more specific than just "he's from Country X" when looking at IPs. Just Google search "what is my IP" and click on one of the links. Most of them will tell you your IP, your ISP (in our case UCLA) the physical location of your ISP's server (apparently somewhere in long beach for UCLA—go figure) and the address your ISP uses to route data to your machine. The RIAA (and any other interested party) can tell that just by being connected to you, sharing a file, and then copy-pasting your IP into an IP locater program/website. </p>
<p>They’ll get a number. And the number will tell Them who to ask. UCLA</p>
<p>Now, the RIAA sends that rather specific IP address with all the UCLA tags on it to the STC, where they look up the MAC address that was associated with that particular IP at the time. Because we're all good little girls and boys (and because there isn't another option) we registered the MAC address of our network cards in our computers automatically via the STC Policy Manager when we moved in (remember the half-hour wait?). If you have a router/hub the Hub's MAC was registered to someone's name--whoever registered it or checked it out.</p>
<p>The RIAA then sends a “Cease and Desist” notice to UCLA, citing the IP address and the particular violation. By law (the Digital Millennium Copyright Act—DCMA for short) UCLA HAS to tell the RIAA who did it. So UCLA AUTOMATICALLY looks up what MAC address the IP is associated with and AUTOMATICALLY issues you your first notice. Then whoever’s in charge tells the RIAA that it’s been taken care of, and to go f**k off. They don't give over logs of your internet traffic unless they are issued a subpoena for them, and even then only if they still have them--they don't keep them any longer than required to improve the network; after they're done with business they dump them. But they do give you a warning, and suspend your internet connection for a day or two while they process things. </p>
<p>So that's basically how it works. The RIAA finds you, tattles on you to UCLA, UCLA goes “wth!” and yells at you, and leaves it at that. And you should stop at that. Like i said, it's all in that link up there, i just summarized what UCLA said they do.</p>
<p>With that said, Bittorrent, Limewire, Morpheus etc.--even DC++-- are prone to betraying you and your downloading habits. </p>
<p>But why UCLA? Why college campuses in general?</p>
<p>Well, large collections of broke, tech-savvy, culture-hungry college students are extra-prone to download things illegally. There would be a much higher ratio of downloaders to legit users here if nobody did anything about it. Downloading is easy, free, and college campus bandwidth is AWESOME. Who <em>wouldn’t</em> download if nobody cared? And it’s easy to get college ISPs to do something about it. The college has more to hang over your head than Comcast or Time Warner would, and a lot more administrative muscle to bear on this sort of thing. So all the RIAA has to do is cry “downloader” and all hell breaks loose in a matter of seconds. It’s as easy for them to track you at college as it is to download stuff at college.</p>
<p>So on to the point: They will catch you. If you download popular stuff, they will catch you quicker. If you download songs or movies, they will catch you quicker. If you download mainstream conten—NBC shows, recently premiered major motion pictures, etc. (unfortunately the most popular on bittorrent) they will catch you quicker. If you use limewire, they will catch you quicker. </p>
<p>The best, or perhaps only way to have them <em>not</em> catch you is by not downloading from the scary public internets. Which is what makes DC++ so attractive. Students at UCLA can set up a hub secretly on campus. If they tell only UCLA students, or restrict access to only the ResNet, it will be much harder for The Man to log on, find your IP, and report you. But the hub has to be kept secret. It can’t be posted on the internet—word of mouth only. Its address cannot spread beyond the walls of campus, or the risk is back. So far, I think they’ve done a good job. Heck, I don’t even know what it is.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the <em>real</em> point of all of this, and why I got thinking about this in the first place. Does somebody want to clue me in as to what the hub address is? I understand you can’t post it, and you might not even want to e-mail it. But want to meet at BruinCafe or something and tell me, so I can write it down? </p>
<p>Somebody PM me with a contact idea please? I’m a firm believer that sharing is caring, and my external hard drive believes that too. </p>
<p>Dang that was a long post.</p>
<p>--Matt</p>
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<p>Didn't it feel good when it all came out?</p>
<p>so good</p>
<p>^now how's <em>that</em> for brevity? Not even any punctuation...</p>
<p>Thanks for scaring me into not downloading porn!!!</p>
<p>Gosh, I was about to download a 37 gb file too... :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Porn... you might actually get away with. The RIAA watches what they care about--music. The MPAA watches what <em>they</em> care about--movies. NBC, CBS, etc. watch what they care about--TV shows.</p>
<p>Presumably, this means Seymoure Butts watches what he cares about too--nasty-ass porn ;)</p>
<p>Thing is, you have to be the copyright holder to sue someone for copyright violation. So watch who you f**k by downloading their stuff. If they're big shots, they'll get you. If they're a small east-asian anime producing company with no marketshare in the US, they might not care. And like i said, UCLA doesn't actually care, so they won't bust you. They just do what's obligated by law and pass on the bad news...</p>