Link: Effective September 2012: UW Madison Math Placement Algorithm

<p><a href="http://www.math.wisc.edu/placement/placementalgorithm.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.math.wisc.edu/placement/placementalgorithm.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Link to signing up for Calculus Credit by Examination on 9/5/2012 (appears to be for students who have taken calculus before coming to UW but do not have the necessary AP score/credit).</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.math.wisc.edu/calculusexam/[/url]”>https://www.math.wisc.edu/calculusexam/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>so if i have ap credit for math 221 what math class would i take</p>

<p>havent been to soar yet</p>

<p>What is your intended major?</p>

<p>Did you score a 4 or a 5 on AP Calc AB?</p>

<p>Did you check your student center account for the results of the placement tests?</p>

<p>(my.wisc.edu then ‘Student Center’, then ‘My Academics’ and Placement Test Scores - ‘view my scores’)</p>

<p>intended majors are computer science and math</p>

<p>got a 5 on calc AB</p>

<p>and i take my placement test on aug. 4th</p>

<p>I believe 222, but if your AP scores have been posted to UW-Madison’s (as mine were posted in early July), they’ll have a definite answer for you at SOAR.</p>

<p>Since you need to take Math 222 and beyond, some students start with Math 221 in spite of AP Calc AB ‘5’ score rather than going straight to Math 222. Your SOAR advisor can help you with this. Best of Luck!</p>

<p>As a math major with a top calc AP score consider the Honors sequence in math. This a proof based series instead of problem solving based. Three semesters of the Honors calculs sequence (there are 4 semesters) will include material offered in 3 semesters of calculus plus the Linear Algebra course. You will still get college credits for your AP course as the material is not the same. You are also as far along as if you started UW with second semester calculus (but with a good theoretical math foundation). Son took the Honors math sequence, some comp sci courses (eventually added it as a second major) and the Physics Honors sequence (debated on a physics major when started UW). He also had a few grad level math courses in 4 years at UW. You could get enough credits to graduate in three years but would not be well prepared for grad work- the fourth year would make the second major more doable as well.</p>

<p>Many students who can get college credit for their AP score will still start with 221 as they will not have covered everything in it and may struggle with 222. With a strong math interest and ability you most likely want more abstract math principles and not the same course the science and engineering majors need.</p>

<p>I second considering the honors math sequence, there will be people to talk about it at SOAR. I didn’t take it so I don’t know exactly how tough it is. It’s math 275, 276, 375, 376 (as far as I can see, dropping after 3 semesters wouldn’t give you everything you need to know in Calc 3). It’s proof based, which is what higher level math classes will be like.</p>

<p>However, 222 has a reputation of being tough and the most failed class on campus (but…lots of non-math majors take it.)</p>

<p>i dont care if math 222 is most failed or feared or whatever</p>

<p>im not going to college to get a good gpa im going to learn</p>

<p>^ good .</p>

<p>I agree with wis75. If you are considering a math major, then consider starting your career with the honors sequence even if you don’t ultimately get a math major with honors. The honors sequences (275/276 or 375/376) are more solid foundations to prepare students to take higher level UG math courses. 275/276 is the proofy version of single variable calculus while 375/376 is the proofy version of multivariate calculus with linear algebra. My son (an incoming freshman) had calculus in HS and didn’t want to go back to single-variable calculus so he will be taking 375/376 his first year. He is pretty excited about it.</p>

<p>Badgerdad- your son had more calc than most can take in HS- lucky him. Those who took the usual first AP course offered would start with 275. Your son obviously had more math. </p>

<p>Math 222 likely gets its reputation from students who had AP calculus then went straight to it. AP versions of calculus are comparable to average colleges’ average courses. UW is a huge step above that, 221 covers more material than AP or often other UW system courses so starting with 222 can be overwhelming for students who passed the AP exam without a 5. There are reasons many students are encouraged to start with 221 despite getting a 3 or better on the AP calculus exam. A student interested in math with a 5 on the AP exam is a good candidate for the Honors sequence. A different set of students in that sequence- around 50 students (son’s year included two Madison West HS students) and different material. You can probably check a past year’s problem sets online to get an idea of material. I was able to find a way several years ago- others can figure out how to as well (I’ve forgotten).</p>

<p>btw- the Math Lab offers help for 221 and some other math courses- check the math dept website. It is open most evenings and staffed by TAs and a few undergrads in upper level math (nice paying job for son one semester).</p>

<p>wis75 - You are right in that he took a bit more calculus than normal. For most others, if they are interested in a math major and they have only taken an AP calculus class, then I think Math 275/275 is great way to start.</p>

<p>Did your son take Math 521 (Analysis) when he did his math major? Wondering if the coverage was reasonable or over the top.</p>

<p>Just bumping this up</p>

<p>So if I have a 4 on Calc BC do I still have to place high enough on the placement test to be qualified to use that credit, or does the AP credit override it?</p>

<p>The placement algorithm has this at the bottom:</p>

<p>AP Credits:
BC score of 4 or 5: Math 221 and 222 credit
BC score of 3: 3 math elective credits (qr-a satisfied)
BC score of 1 or 2: no credit
AB score or AB subscore of 4 or 5: Math 221 credit
AB score or AB subscore of 3: 3 math elective credits (qr-a satisfied)
AB score or AB subscore of 1 or 2: no credit</p>

<p>Thus, a 4 on Calc BC gives you credit for Math 221 and Math 222. (The placement test does not test calculus proficiency).</p>

<p>What happens if I do poorly on placement test since I havent had trig since sophomore year? They don’t care much since I have the AP credit?</p>

<p>Not sure, cross that bridge when you come to it? Review trig and review sample exam questions? Call the testing placement service and ask?</p>

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