@bisouu In all due respect, I think if any program was being bashed, people would defend it, particularly if it was their or their child’s school. It is only natural. I think you would if people were denigrating your child’s college. In this case it wasn’t “a slight negative comment” either. Also, in my 16 years on this site, I have never seen a BFA program bashed as much or as often as I have seen with NYU/Tisch.
@2lights My D is a graduate of NYU/Tisch. So, I’m sure there is an inherent bias. I’ll be the first to say that NYU/Tisch (like any college) is not for everyone. I don’t mind if some say it is a program that doesn’t appeal to them. I am not saying it is the greatest program in the country. However, I do think it is a well regarded program. I cannot agree, nor do I understand how you arrived at this, that the top talented kids are not even bothering to apply to NYU, and if they do, it is a “back up.” Well, I can’t fathom it being a back up as it ain’t easy getting accepted. Regardless, I can tell you for my kid, it was a first choice dream school, along with many theater friends of hers. I understand if that is not the case for your kid or his/her cohorts. But that is not true across the board. You say that top talented kids prefer schools like CMU or CCM, for example. My MT kid did not even apply to CCM as it did not fit what she wanted. My kid applied to CMU and was Priority Waitlisted for Acting, but even if she had gotten off that waitlist, she preferred NYU more than CMU. So, that is just an example. But she has many friends who had NYU/Tisch as a first chcice and many who applied ED in fact.
Does every graduate of Tisch become successful in the professional world of the arts? Surely not. That is true of so many programs. But I can share that in my D’s particular class at Tisch, I know NUMEROUS graduates who have done well in the highest levels of the field. Some are on Broadway (including in leading roles), National Tours, starring in movies and TV shows, directing and choreographing on Broadway and Off Broadway, acting in Off Broadway shows, writing and composing new works, running theater companies, performing on major concert stages, and so on. So, if Tisch is not attracting so called top talented students, why are a great many of them doing well in the professional world after they graduate? How do you account for that?
On a personal front, my D loved her time at NYU and gained a great deal there and I think is doing quite well so far since graduating and has made her entire living in the theater and music world since graduation day.
I’d rather people talk about why a school does or doesn’t fit them well, then put the school down in terms of its reputation. Not all schools are for all people. I do believe, even if my kid never attended NYU, that the program is well known and well regarded and that many, but not all, graduates are finding success.
Tbh - I wish NYU had NOT been a part of the list, so I could have simply enjoyed the fireworks. But such was not to be - b/c no matter what the consensus of certain parts of the CC Community feel about it’s quality - it’s always on the list