Little confused among too many colleges!!!

<p>Hello, guys!!! I'm an international student from Mongolia and really want to study in the States. And I'm taking the Oct SAT and Nov SATII. I'm sure that I can take a 2100 or more on SAT and will do well on Math IIc and Physics, since both subjects are taught very well here. My only problem lies on CR.</p>

<p>Anyway, I'm interested in majoring Computer Science. Some of you may have already seen my prior threads here. </p>

<p>I've already made my first 4 choices, which are MIT, Vanderbilt, Cornell, and Grinnel. They are my reaches. And I'm asking you guys to help me find my safeties and matches.</p>

<p>Oh, for the extracurricular activities, I'm a member of Amnesty Int'l and teach on a local orphanage and also participate in various kind of academic competitions, from which I took many prizes. Though I don't know if it is counted as extracurricular activities.</p>

<p>So, what could be my next 4 or 5 colleges that are good at CS?</p>

<p>PS: I excluded Harvey Mudd and Carnegie Mellon, because CMU doesn't have a financial aid for int'l students while HM doesn't give too much. So I want to mention here that colleges, preferably, need to have a financial aid for int'ls.</p>

<p>bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>

<p>You will probably have to do your own research on financial aid for int'ls. It's not a heavily discussed topic on these forums because there is so little of it. In fact, FAFSA isn't even supported for int'l students. What you really want is merit aid. Because of your charitable work you might have some luck with Jesuit schools like Loyola Marymount, Villanova, Boston College, Santa Clara. These four have decent computer science.</p>

<p>anyone else?</p>

<p>Some other good schools to possibly look into would be University of Maryland College Park, University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, University of Wisconsin Madison, University of Michigan, University of Texas Austin, University of Washington, University of Massachusetts Amherst, University of Southern California, or University of California San Diego. All have highly ranked computer science programs (top 25 ranked), although I have no idea how many of them give good money to international students. Good luck, and hope this helps!</p>

<p>Thanks for the posts. I need to have a long list of great CS schools like fa-la-la-lena provided me and I'll cut down them considering their fin.aids. So plzz guys!!!</p>

<p>I would take a look at the following, although as noted by others, you need to do some extensive research on the amount of financial aid offered to internationals:</p>

<p>University of Rochester
Lafayette
Brandeis
Macalester
Denison
Oberlin
Grinell (very small and isolated but excellent school)</p>

<p>Also, Clark University in Worcester offers aid to international students, but to be honest, I haven't checked on whether it has a CS major--it's a good school though.</p>

<p>you might just want to check out the website <a href="http://www.greguide.com/comps.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.greguide.com/comps.html&lt;/a>. Any of the schools listed have good comp. science programs (based on rankings, of course).</p>

<p>Here's to give you some ideas:</p>

<p>Gourman Report computer science undergrad rankings (from collegehelp)</p>

<p>MIT
Carnegie Mellon
UC Berkeley
Cornell
U Illinios UC
UCLA
Yale
Caltech
U Texas Austin
U Wisconsin Madison
U Maryland CP
Princeton
U Washington
USC
SUNY Stony Brook
Brown
Georgia Tech
U Penn
U Rochester
NYU
U Minnesota
U Utah
Columbia
Ohio State
Rice
Duke
Northwestern
SUNY Buffalo
U Pittsburgh
UC Irvine
UC San Diego
U Mass Amherst
Rutgers NB
Indiana U Bloomington
Penn State UP
UC Santa Barbara
Syracuse
Iowa St
RPI
UVA
U Michigan AA
U Iowa
U Conn
Southern Methodist
US Naval Acad
US Military Acad
U Houston
U Kansas
Washington U St Louis
Mich St
Stevens Inst
Case Western
Texas A&M
U Oklahoma
Kansas State
Vanderbilt
Washington State</p>

<p>And here's the old NRC ranking in CS:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stat.tamu.edu/%7Ejnewton/nr...41.html#area29%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nr...41.html#area29&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Good luck. =]</p>

<p>thanks, man!!!</p>

<p>Also, here are Rugg's recommendations for liberal arts colleges strong in computer science:</p>

<p>Brandeis
Bucknell
Carleton
Colgate
Colorado School of Mines
Dallas, U of
Denison
Dickinson
Furman
Grinnell
Hamilton
Harvey Mudd
Illinois Institute of Technology
Lafayette
Macalester
Middlebury
Mount Holyoke
New Mexico Institute of Technology
Rice
Rose-Hulman
Stevens Institute of Technology
Vassar
Williams
Worcester Institute of Technology
Yeshiva</p>

<p>Case Western Reserve is good for computer science, and offers good aid, but I am not sure about international aid. Tulane offers great aid. Flagler is a small, low cost Florida private school that offers great aid. People usually need to aim a little low to get great merit aid. One international on this forum recently had good offers from both Worchester Polytechnic and Boston University. They are both good schools, but not top schools.</p>

<p>Thinking of adding Colgate, Harvey Mudd, Macalester, Middlebury, Mount Holyoke, Williams, and Case Western Reserve. But which 4 or 5, because I've no idea about those schools. Here in Mongolia, ppl usually only know about Harvard and yes, sometimes Yale or Stanford.</p>

<p>Middlebury and Macalester have large international student populations, so I'd place them high on your list. Williams (and Middlebury) are need blind for international students, so if you need aid, keep them. Mount Holyoke is an all-girls school, so if you're a male (as your profile suggests), you can eliminate that school immediately.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that Williams and Middlebury are extrememly selective (more selective than Vanderbilt and Grinnell and as selective as Cornell).</p>

<p>Okay, I'll keep them in mind. But I'm just wondering about their CS programs?</p>

<p>And I've taken this list by PM. I want your opinions here, plzzz!!!</p>

<p>Dartmouth C
Harvey Mudd C<br>
Middlebury C
Northwestern U -
Principia C - safety
Wartburg C
Wesleyan U
Williams</p>

<p>When my son was looking for schools at which he could major in computer science, it was a factor that cs is a branch of math at some universities, while a part of the engineering school at others. In the end, he decided he enjoys real-life applications and participation in research too much to attend a university where research opportunities for cs students are extremely limited.</p>

<p>Ultimately, he chose a school at which he could double-major in computer science (in the engineering school) and math (in arts and sciences). That isn't encouraged at many places, so the ability to do that was a deciding factor for him.</p>

<p>I'm mentioning this because I see LAC schools known for their math programs on this list, and I'm just wondering how much external research funding these schools get that would allow for real research for computer science students. On the other hand, if you are more interested in theory, perhaps it doesn't matter to you.</p>