<p>O by the way, not it's not me, but it's what others told me.
You never know. Some might take more time to learn the material and even more time to get an A.</p>
<p>Just to let you know, overachieving students tend to hyperaggrandize the actual situation, like "Oh, my God that test was SO HARD!!!", when it was actually a little harder than average. Or "I so FAILED that test!", when they probably got like an 85. Point is your goal should be take the necessary time for YOU to learn the material well, and forget what everyone else is doing. You might in the summer, instead of taking actual classes, do something like take a speed reading class. It's helped me, and you can learn to increase your reading speed. I know people who didn't do well, not because they were stupid, but compared to average, their reading speed was very slow.</p>
<p>Haha it's true. But still it takes me a longer time to learn the material. I may be in an advanced class, but I will learn the material after everyone else because I'm always the last person to be done. I'm diligently working, but that's just how much time it takes for my brain to process things.
Ur kidding right? I never knew that! That's very interesting.......I'll look into that speed reading class. And it really helped...it wans't just a load of bs?</p>
<p>Well, I was like that too. I was always the last one to turn in my exam, that doesn't mean. As far as "taking longer to learn the material", it's all relative. Any actual new material will take you time to learn as it is called "new" for a reason.</p>
<p>I thought the speed reading class helped. I was never a slow reader, but I took it to increase my reading speed. If you find one in your area that is reputable, I think it might really help you esp. when you get to classes in which there is a lot of reading material.</p>
<p>Few of the so-called "overachievers" got into their #1 choice schools. The truly talented ones (who got into their top choice schools) generally focused on their work/EC's and didn't make a big deal about it; they just did their work. Note that many of the desired schools/programs required interviews and the "overachievers" probably came across as phonies. Focus on your own goals and forget about the phonies.</p>
<p>There, a post without mentioning you-know-who.</p>
<p>Happytograduate, what was your GPA? I'm sorry, but I must ask.
Also, the fact is, I think that my chem honors hw in itself takes about 1-1.5 hours, sometimes even more-depends on the day. I study over the weekends too. My time management is pretty good I would say.
Would you mind posting your stats (your ECs and awards and etc) and telling me which BA/MD program you are in?
Just because you were the last to turn in your test, doesn't mean anything. It just means your careful and you care about what you wrote.</p>
<p>Nice post Gomez.</p>
<p>Sangeeta, switching between regular(honors) classes and AP classes is the same everywhere. And also, your not "forced" into doing anything.</p>
<p>So you are now thinking of bs/md programs? A lot of kids have been working at it already, some for years. Why not just do it yourself. Go get some books on the subject. I believe these programs are looking for signs of maturity and independence. Passion too. Stop talking and go do it.</p>
<p>I don't believe that's true az1968. An honors class is far more challenging than a regular class. Only certain people take an honors class. Plus honors class is part of the track for AP.
As for oreo45, I wanted to do this since the beginning of freshman year and I have been prepping for it. But this year, I see that my load's getting way to heavy and I had to question whether or not I'd be good enough.</p>
<p>Obviously honors is harder than regular, but I had the assumption that your were in honors.</p>
<p>I saw some really great advice on You Tube the other day.</p>
<p>Go to You Tube, and then search for "Big Ten Network Recruiting" and then watch the video.</p>
<p>Hey Sangeetha, my GPA in high school was 4.756. I don't have my CV from high school as I've already graduated from medical school. I threw that away long time ago lol. I graduated from the six-year BA/MD program at UMKC. There are A LOT more BA/MD or BS/MD programs now.</p>
<p>Hence, you need to go to your teachers and ask for the HW for the week from each of your classes so that you can spend your time wisely. So if you're spending about 1 - 1.5 hrs. per day per class - that's normal. If you're spending more then you need to get the assignments in advance and stay ahead in the textbook of what is being covered in class.</p>
<p>sangeeta93, many college freshman say that the first semester of college is the toughest one. This could also be applied to high school, specifically junior year. Beginning in junior year, AP classes are more readily offered, and thus, many "overachievers" load up on them. Then, as junior year starts, some of these students are overwhelmed by the workload that these courses demand. Therefore, it is paramount for you to learn how to manage/adapt your daily schedule in order to be successful. Also, keep in mind that learning to manage/adapt your daily is something that cannot be found on a website. Therefore, figure out what works best for you. As Gomez mentioned, the Big Ten Recruiting Commercial is very inspirational. Just remember, "We [University of Michigan] have wings on our helmets". Therefore, we soar above the rest, and that is why we are the "Victors Valiant". </p>
<p>P.S. I am aware that Michigan dropped their combined medical program many years ago. However, I inserted the Michigan reference because I felt that Gomez was monopolizing the Multiple Degree Programs forum with Penn State references.</p>
<p>Somehow Rich Rodriguez (a West Virginian) talking about Michigan tradition seems a little far-fetched. Les Miles would have been a more natural choice.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. Been to Toledo recently? :)</p>
<p>What you guys say is all very true. At first, I didn't imagine the sacrifice or the immense talent it takes to be a part of these programs.
And even though I'm pretty sure that I'm not half as talented as these applicants, I still want to try because being a part of this program will be a huge accomplishment in my life.
But I still want to try.
Thanks for giving such awesome feedback.</p>
<p>Pretty simple. If you want a decent chance to get into a school/program/position where only a limit number of spots exist and numerous other applicants with formidable credentials are competing for those limited number of spots, you need to have credentials that are at least comparable to the other applicants. Alternatively, if you know somebody that has the power to admit you or have some other inside track (like donating several $$$ Million to the school), you might also have a decent chance of admittance without having the stellar credentials. Kind of like common sense.</p>
<p>Either way, its always fun to watch JoePa. JoePa has formidable credentials.</p>
<p>I took 1 AP soph, 5 junior (1 honors) and 4 this year (along with a medical internship).</p>
<p>The work is hard, but doesn't really phase me. This is also while playing school baseball (3-4 hours of practice after school every day in the spring) and having a job. Being bored just drives me insane. I'd rather being a little stressed and get something done than have tons of free time and just be a floater.</p>
<p>oops. Not only one honors class of course. probably about 10 of those</p>
<p>you know..i have the same fears. what if the bs/md program just proves to be too challenging and i cant keep up with everyone else? i guess you kinda just have to believe in yourself and do what's needed, but whatever.</p>
<p>and i didnt know Michigan used to have a BS/MD program...whyd they get rid of it?</p>
<p>Just a quick question..which would be the better choice? Going to MSU or getting into the BS/MD program at Wayne State and going there? i know that Wayne State has a really good med school, so would it be to my benefit to do undergrad there?</p>
<p>and from reading over this thread, oreo...i think you're criticizing sangeeta a bit too much. its not that hes a lazy student or not confident...hes just being cautious and making informed decisions. stop jumpin on his back.</p>