I’m a lawyer. Avoid debt. Avoid debt. Avoid debt. Debt is a pair of shackles that will limit both you and your parents for a long long time. The whole idea of getting out of school and making a lot of money (or what seems like a lot of money) with debt means you will be living like a starving college student well into your 30’s. No cool nights out for drinks, a shabby apartment with roommates, a junker of a car, and potential significant others who didn’t go into debt and will, rightly, look askance at taking on someone with $250k of debt. Heck, you could even have to live back at home.
If you are in New York SUNY Purchase has availablity and is a great school
TempeMom is not making it up. My nephew fell in love with a women with 100K debt and seriously weigh that debt before he married her. Didn’t stop him but it was a factor. They delayed buying a house since the debt limited their ability to get the mortgage they needed. I suspect, it will also delay starting a family. She lived at home until she got married since she could not afford a apartment or even sharing an apartment due to her loans. The only reason they could make it work is that he had no debt and they both work at jobs that pay reasonably well. Neither have the option of quitting (say to start a family) until the student loan is paid off. So the what people are posting are not just scare tactics but just realities of excessive debt.
Ok what seems more worth it? And more respectable degree?
Elizabethtown town college (6k yr)
Or Pace University nyc Honors College (Phorzheimer honors… Dont know if that actually makes it better) (17k/yr.)
- how much can your family afford?
- wha would your major (or field of interest) be?
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Elizabethtown town college (6k yr)
Or Pace University nyc Honors College (Phorzheimer honors… Dont know if that actually makes it better) (17k/yr.)
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Have you told us how much your family is paying each year?
What is in your Pace aid pkg? Any loans? any work study? how much in a grant?
What is in your E package?
MONEYS NOT AN ISSUE. WHICH ONES MORE RESPECTABLE IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE , EMPLOYERS , ORGANIZATIONS.*
Thanks!
And interests in languages, internation relations , possibly with a media studies too. Pretty undecided
I’m out. I don’t enjoy being yelled at. Good luck with whatever you choose.
I put this on your other thread.
These two colleges very comparable. You will GT a good education at either one.
And please, you are saying now that money isn’t an issue.
They will be considered equal. One NOT better than the other.
Please don’t act like money isn’t a concern. You’ve suggested in other posts that you’d be borrowing all the remaining costs (and likely there are already loans in your FA pkgs).
So, do yourself a favor and go to the cheaper school.
You will likely have more of a “traditional college experience” (residential, living on campus, school spirit,etc.) at Elizabethtown, than at Pace.
But at Pace you will be in NYC, and that may (or may not) be better for internships, etc.
NYC will be more expensive to live in, than Elizabethtown. For instance - if you want to live off-campus at Pace, where will you live that’s affordable, and how will you commute to school?
Im living on campus at pace. Id rather a big city than middle of nowhere. Was wondering if an honors college will look better? (Not concerned with price for these two )
These two schools are equivalent schools. Honors college doesn’t really make any difference.
I was a job interviewer at my old job. I can say with certainly that no one was ever hired over someone else because they were part of an honors college.
Honors college DOES make life easier and may make the experience better: you have smaller, more interactive classes, you often have a better dorm and priority registration, you get more support for your plans and first dib at opportunities.
Being at a small, residential college like Etown, that’s the way it is for everybody - individualized attention, interactive classes, access to professors, ease of registering, etc.
At a larger, more commuter university like Pace, it’ll make a big difference to your experience.
You seem to really not like the school in PA, based on your posts. If you would rather be in a big city, go to Pace…assuming that you don’t mind paying 11k a year more. Money many not be an issue (which seems odd considering the flow of this thread), but 45k over 4 years is a lot of money and that would be the difference (and then some given spending cost in NYC) if you choose Pace over Etown.
Neither is more prestigious than the other.
So, what are you going to do? So long as it is not LMU you and that extreme cost, you are moving in the right direction.
I put this on your other thread, but if money is truly not a concern (hard to believe in light of your earlier posts), pick whichever you prefer. They’re comparable schools. If it was me, I’d pick Elizabethtown. I wouldn’t want to be at what I consider to be a commuter school, even if I was living on campus. It’s just a different experience. Of course, what’s important to me may not be important to you at all.
Some facts to help you compare
ETown: 185 acres
Pace: 50 acres (Pleasantville: 200 acres)
ETown: 1,800 students
Pace: 8,700
ETown: average ACT, 24
Pace: average ACT, 23
ETown: top 25% ACT, 28
Pace: top 25%, 26
% classes with 20 and fewer students
ETown: 64%
Pace: 50%
Classes with 40 and more students
ETown: 1%
Pace: 3%
Freshmen living on campus
ETown: 96%
Pace: 71%
1st year students returning:
ETown: 80%
Pace: 76%
Graduating in 4 years
ETown: 65%
Pace: 37%
Top 10% in high school
ETown: 31%
Pace: 16%
% who got 30+ on ACT
ETown: 16%
Pace: 4%
That four year graduation rate at Pace would make me consider another place.
I think I’d look more RESPECTABLE IN THE EYES OF PEOPLE , EMPLOYERS , ORGANIZATIONS if I drove a Bentley. But if I have to BORROW heavily to do it, then money is DEFINITELY an issue.
As note above…the benefit of an honors college is usually while you are IN college…comes on the form of smaller classes, maybe priority registration, etc.
At a larger school, this can be a benefit…makes the larger school feel smaller.
But Elizabethtown has most of the benefits of an honors college anyway…smaller classes, and the like.