<p>BE sure to look at the Tues Dec 12...thread to kn ow who to pray for for EA</p>
<p>hahaha........</p>
<p>Mailing date is Sat. Dec. 16th--I checked with an 83 grad who works for the university; he checked with a colleague in admissions. To double-check, I called admissions myself, got the same answer.</p>
<p>Scratch this idea of the 12th. It's not happening. Earliest ones to get letters will probably be Mon. 18th--may possibly be later.</p>
<p>As I've mentioned before, this is precisely what happened two years ago. They always run late. They've got a lot to do!</p>
<p>Okay, you know I've got it bad when even I want to know when the early letters go out, and my daughter applied RD!
By the way, (he's my neurosis flaring up again), if they go out on the 16th, when do admissions start reviewing apps for RD? Anybody know?</p>
<p>Deadline for RD apps is December 31, so they obviously won't start before them. Academic calendar second semester doesn't start until January 14th (I know because my Domer son will be doing plenty of couch occupation up until that date <g>.) I'd presume they start going through them some time after that....</g></p>
<p>Don't sweat the neurosis. I'm ready to go nuts here! I can't fathom how crushed my d will be if she doesn't get in early action. And that stupid 31 on the ACT keeps running through my mind. Whoever posted the EA responses from last year has just made my day worse!</p>
<p>It's tough, I know - my son was admitted RD last year, and I'll be chewing my fingernails off for Son #2 this year. He's applying RD as his brother did, so we get to enjoy another 14 weeks or so of tension. He has a hook, though - the Magic 8 Ball at the Cracker Barrel restaurant we visited said "it is certain" when asked if he'd be admitted. So, he has that going for him! :)</p>
<p>Your daughter (I think it's a daughter, right?) has a good chance EA and a strong chance RD, should she be deferred. I'm confident it'll work out for her (and you) in the end!</p>
<p>Thank you, Radionicist! </p>
<p>By the way, I hear the Magic 8 Ball at the Cracker Barrel is never, ever wrong :)...</p>
<p>Now that I've passed that particular age, I see no use whatsoever for the number 31! The test scores in that other thread, of last year's EA acceptees, were thoroughly astronomical.... I know I sweated through this two years ago on these very boards, but he had the 34 thing going for him. When you have a 34, they know you are very smart. When you have a 31, they know you are pretty smart, but maybe not smart enough...</p>
<p>This kills me so much! All through my childhood, I scored just like my son on standardized tests. Never could understand what the big fuss was all about; what everybody thought was so hard. From Iowa Basics to ACT's, my son was always in the 99th percentile on those tests, as I had been. My daughter lived in the shadow of that forever...</p>
<p>She's good enough at math, but not great at it. She gets A's in AP math, but only because she works very hard at it and will settle for nothing less from herself. It doesn't come naturally to her at all (28 ACT). She's an above-average, but not great, math student (29 ACT). If she were wanting to major in math or science, she would not be a Notre Dame caliber student.</p>
<p>When it comes to insight, however, she is breathtakingly amazing. I can remember her making comments to me at the age of 7 or 8, not in a disrespectful way, but a very direct way, that cut to the chase of anything going on in a certain situation. She is unbelievably profound and can read just about any situation. She is a completely original thinker. She also has a style of leadership that is very team-oriented and low key, but is tremendously effective.</p>
<p>Funny thing is, she's not the very best at anything. She was 7th runner of the 7 kids on her high school's cross country team and only scored in one meet. And yet she was a vital ingredient in the team's 3rd in state finish. She's not the best player on the soccer team, either, but she is a sweeper who can tell a bunch of adolescent females on her team what to do, and they will listen to her without resenting her, because she knows how to do it. She's not the highest ranked student and didn't get the highest test scores in her high school or in this EA pool, and yet the kind of insights she can glean from history, theology and English class are unbelievably dead on--it's always something, too, that I've never heard anyone express before. </p>
<p>She is pretty good at the singing thing, but vows to never do it for anything but recreational purposes so that it can always remain a pleasure for her.</p>
<p>On paper, though, there are no superlatives. No "gosh, can I get in with a 35?" (Or a 1480...) No National Merit. No national competitions or Post-Dispatch athlete of the week. No trips to some forlorn corner of the world to do good. </p>
<p>To think that a stupid 31 could tank this dream for her... If ND doesn't take her, I don't know how I ever forgive the place--which could be a tricky proposition being an alumna with one already in school up there.... Even thinking about deferral or rejection is like looking over the edge, into the abyss...simply too painful to ponder!</p>
<p>If any of you have ever been inspired by anything I've written on these boards up to this point, now is the time to write and say hi! Hardest thing is to pretend, when she gets home, that I'm barely even thinking about it. Funny thing...we both pretend it to each other.</p>
<p>Please, God, she has to get in!</p>
<p>DDJones...I am puzzled as to why a 31 is considered bad. Even Harvard and Princeton accept 31s when the kids have other things going for them. Did you daughter's essay convey the strengths you just spoke of? Maybe that will be the shining light for her...</p>
<p>I don't know... I just went and read the threads from a year ago at this time, the stats of those who got in EA. The scores were astronomical. </p>
<p>I think the essay conveyed her character, if not the specific strengths I brought up. Her teacher and counselor essays also touched on them.</p>
<p>I guess I'm just amazed at how much depends on one stupid test!</p>
<p>And I know how badly she wants this... Of all the emotions to nurture a child through--rejection, pain, fear, and the like--the worst of them all is disappointment...</p>
<p>I'm just goofy scared, sunshadow...and probably irrational. It's nice to have friends to go through this with!</p>
<p>DDJones...I am puzzled as to why a 31 is considered bad</p>
<p>i agree.... thats the score im shooting for....</p>
<p>if she doenst want it... ill take it....</p>
<p>DDJones:
I will be praying for her like crazy at Mass tomorrow morning! Our Lady of Guadalupe has done some amazing things for my family...including sending my oldest brother his vision to enter the priesthood. Today is his 7th anniversary and he could not be happier with this choice in life. Everyone in my family has a statuette of Our Lady of Guadalupe somewhere in our house as a result. Mine is in my kitchen window. Keep the faith :)</p>
<p>Thank you so much, sunshadow--that is so sweet!</p>
<p>Chillin, I know I'm puzzling... I'm not a very patient person inherently, and I'm getting anxious at this point. I swore I wouldn't get as paranoid this time around, or let it get me nervous, but--who was I kidding?! Just figure it's a neurotic middle-aged woman thing... (That's what my kids do :))</p>
<p>Also, sunshadow, I wanted to PM you, but it kicked back my message that your PM mailbox is full. I think you get to store 50 messages in your inbox, sent and other folders combined. If you kick some of them out, you can get more in! :)</p>
<p>I'll be very glad when the waiting game is over (at least, if it ends the way I hope and pray it does), but I will miss you people! Hopefully, one of these days we'll all meet up at the Dome and gripe about the price of tuition together :)</p>
<p>hahah.....</p>
<p>I hope you dont disappear after your daughter recieves her admission letter.....</p>
<p>some of us will still be seeking advice......</p>
<p>You are an optimistic sort, chillin--yet another reason I like you :)</p>
<p>Oh, thanks - DD. I didn't realize that about my inbox.
You mentioned seeing scores from last year's thread...but I only saw a couple. Is there a specific place to look?</p>
<p>hey... a little optimisim never hurts</p>