Loomis Chaffee, Choate Rosemary Hall, and The Hotchkiss School

<p>If I were SPS (and perhaps I am, you don’t know), I wouldn’t accept you in a million years. You are a total smug pompous KID – people on this board try to be polite to each other. You think you know it all, how old are you? 15? Seriously most of these schools want NICE kids not know-it-all “I know more than you do” jerks. I hope no other applicant listens to your advice, or “chances” as just because you find facts online does not mean you understand anything.</p>

<p>Your math proves only that Hotchkiss has a bigger budget. You don’t consider the fact that more full pays might apply to Loomis, especially since more kids are day students there (almost 40%!) than at Hotchkiss. Your math only shows that ON AVERAGE Hotchkiss has slightly more money per student for FA, but what about as percentage of costs of the school? They do not cost the same you know. And how about how many completely free ride kids each school takes? If Hotchkiss takes slightly more (and I believe they do) then this throws your math off as if you take the complete 100% scholarship kids out of the equation, perhaps Loomis gives more to families in the middle of the road and not requiring full aid. Each case is considered individually and that’s what you don’t seem to get with your massive sweeping generalizations where you claim that Hotchkiss gives more aid than Loomis. Yes, they may in terms of dollar amounts, but not necessarily for each family. </p>

<p>And also the Loomis web site says 34% of their students are on FA so your math isn’t even right.</p>

<p>My apologies for actually knowing what I am talking about instead of thinking that I do.</p>

<p>And I just saw the depression thread so I am sorry if I was rude in the above post. But you really need to tone down how you come across here. You are merely an applicant and do not (necessarily) know more than other applicants, and when you do, you should make sure to let them know you are in the same boat. For example, you are not an authority on financial aid, and kids here might think you are from the way your write. You may have more time to research all of this given you are home schooled, but reading the web sites etc does not mean you have any actual evidence about schools being more or less generous than other schools. Ok? Good luck on March 9/10.</p>

<p>You’re actually gonna turn this personally on me? You were rude first and I defended myself. Look at what you said to me, and you’re going to tell me that you’re perfectly behaved and mannered? There were better ways to express your opinion than accusing me of purposely “misleading people” when in fact, I honestly believe that Hotchkiss gives out a larger FA grant to most people and I have appropriate mathematical examples to prove it. Only a pompous person such as yourself would say “Trust me” at the end of an argument. Do not blame my argument to your initial rude statement. I am polite to everyone who treats me the same way. </p>

<p>Also, the Loomis website said 1/3 so I assumed that meant 33%. No one thinks I’m a school official as I’m clearly an applicant as you have mentioned. When anyone posts here, everyone needs to take it with a grain of salt. It’s a forum meant for advice by people who also need advice. I have not done anything wrong nor purposely mislead people. That would be malicious and I’m simply trying to help with what I know. I’m sure you are as well. If you are already at BS like you’ve suggested, good luck with the rest of your years. And if you are at SPS, I hope everything is going well there. It is an amazing BS.</p>

<p>You are wrong. Simply put. Showing endowment or how much FA budget and number of students on FA does NOT indicate anything but that. I think Loomis and other schools might take issue with a kid going around saying things that are simply not true. Hotchkiss does not necessarily give more aid per person than any other school, it all depends on the individual case. For example, if you live in NJ then your aid package might be less than someone from California with the exact same financial numbers/need because things like travel are even included. So please please stop thinking (and spreading) untrue statements that one school is more generous than another.</p>

<p>You can cite endowments, how many kids that are on FA, and facts like Andover is need blind, but beyond that there are no hard and fast rules except it depends on the case. </p>

<p>I know of several anecdotal stories of two families who received vastly different aid packages from Loomis and Hotchkiss. One family did not qualify for any aid at Loomis but got a small amount at Hotchkiss. The other family received about 50% of the costs at Hotchkiss but about 80% at Loomis. From these examples, you can merely see that it works differently depending upon the student and their needs. </p>

<p>And maybe you should think a little before you write. You are easily identifiable to these schools and you really are coming across far far from deserving, and also as a not very nice person. Good luck. </p>

<p>For the record, I’m an adult, and you also should really be careful how you talk to people online. But only “pompous person” such as me would say “trust me.” Well, I asked you to trust me, and you chose to lambast me instead, not even knowing if I work in the SPS office or elsewhere. You are wrong, you have mislead people and Hotchkiss does not necessarily give more aid than Loomis. But I forgot, you are a 16 year old applicant who knows better. Really?</p>

<p>I think we can all agree that financial aid fluctuates wildly; also, we can agree that sometimes, mathematics does not reveal everything in a situation-though it is a very good place to start analyzing.</p>

<p>Thus, Math557 should try his/her best in applying to each school, and hope for the best come March 9! Good luck!</p>

<p>As to preserve the forum thread for Math557, this argument will end here. Despite what I have to say for bspreppie.</p>

<p>tight thread</p>

<p>bspreppie, though I have to admit that your analysis is right, reading your previous posts, I also have to say you’re a real ******bag.</p>

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<p>No school is going to award you a full scholarship just because you say you need it. Each school will review the documentation submitted with your financial aid application and calculate your award accordingly.</p>

<p>The possible outcomes when you apply to a school and need financial aid are as follows:</p>

<ol>
<li>Accepted with aid</li>
<li>Accepted without aid</li>
<li>Accepted and waitlisted for aid</li>
<li>Waitlisted</li>
<li>Denied</li>
</ol>

<p>If you make it past the admissions review, and the school determines you have financial aid, but the school can’t afford to fund you, you could get any of the results listed in 2 - 5 above. Which answer you get depends on the school. Some schools will simply deny you; others might admit you, but with zero aid (yes, they know this means you won’t be able to attend unless you miraculously come up with the money).</p>

<p>Thank you everyone for the helpful information.</p>

<p>I got an 89 on the SSAT and got accepted of the wait list at LC!</p>

<p>It is my understanding that the two things that are not discussed on campus once school starts are- SSAT scores and Financial Aid. This is at one of the most competitive schools with the lowest acceptance rate. So that said, I would not put much stock in anything but the published stats furnished by the school. SSAT scores are only one small part of the admission decision but they seem to be the main focus of this board.</p>