<p>"Most of the unintended beneficiaries are students who left California after attending high school there and then return for college, officials say. Those students are able to take advantage of language in the state law that promises in-state tuition to any student who has a diploma from a California high school and attended high school in the state for three years or more. The law was written broadly in an attempt to avoid violating provisions of a federal immigration statute that restricts benefits for undocumented students.</p>
<p>At the University of California and California State University, legal residents who qualify for the tuition benefit appear to outnumber the undocumented immigrants for whom the state law was designed, according to university data and interviews with officials"</p>
<p>Why is this a loophole? Where do you draw the line? A kid goes OOS for two years, doesn’t like it and transfers back to UC/Cal State, for example? </p>
<p>IMO, a bigger impact is the number of internationals who send their kids to California to attend HS to gain “residency” for tuition purposes.</p>
<p>If the parents are still residents of Calif, the student SHOULD get in-state tuition at a UC after attending an OOS school. </p>
<p>My nephew went to Columbia, then graduated, then went to UCB for grad school. He’s a Calif kid; his parents still live in Calif. Of course he should get in-state at UCB.</p>
<p>And, unfortunately, our Legislature is stocked full with economic morons. The simple fact is that college is expensive, and undocumenteds do not qualify for need-based aid. The ‘build-it-they-will-come’ philosophy of the powers-that-be is just wishful thinking. Or, they really know better but are just doing something, ANYthing, just act like they care.</p>
<p>I think the article means students who moved away to work, etc. Not go to school in another state. If you work a year as an adult (over 18) in another state you typically become a resident of that state for tuition purposes. You don’t get two states for this purpose.</p>
<p>At my DDs UC there were a majority of science students who were both ESL (not Spanish, but Asian languages) and CA residents- per anecdotal evidence. IMHO, Blue Bayou is right, tons of internationals sent to live with aunties and attend HS in Cali and get in state at the UCs</p>
<p>*I think the article means students who moved away to work, etc. Not go to school in another state. If you work a year as an adult (over 18) in another state you typically become a resident of that state for tuition purposes. You don’t get two states for this purpose. *</p>
<p>I thought that as long as you’re under age 24, you’re considered (for school purposes) a dependent of your parents and are the “in-state” for wherever the parents live. </p>
<p>Otherwise, kids could move to Calif after graduation and become in-state for Calif - even if parents lived elsewhere.</p>
<p>barrons: its still a silly pointbeing made. If an 18 year old moves OOS and then returns, s/he only has to wait ONE year for instate tuition, even if the parents are no longer here. (The same is true for an young adult to relocates to California: instate tuition after one year.) Of course, there are exceptions so a young adult still could petition a juco, for example, for instate tuition fees immediately upon returning. Instate fees might not be granted, but they just might.</p>
<p>What is the period of time that a person can do this? Can a person go to and graduate from a CA school, move out of the state for several years, marry, start a family, and then go to a CA school for in-state? </p>
<p>Gee…I went to a Calif high school in the 70s. Can I move back NOW and get in-state rates? I doubt it. What’s the number of years???</p>
<p>My D went to an OOS school. Did not adjust. Came home to Ca and worked. Relocated to another state for work but decided instead to go back to school. She is at a CC in another state. We pay out of state tuition. Both the state she is in and Ca base her residency on where her parents pay income tax. They don’t care if we support her or she supports herself. We had concerns about her not being a resident of any state for tuition purposes.</p>
<p>I think both the state she is in and Ca regarding marriage. I think once you are married some of the rules change.</p>
<p>Is that true? Once you marry the rules change? </p>
<p>There is a married girl (age 25) on this forum that graduated from a Calif school. She’s now a resident of another state. Can she return to Calif and pay in-state rates? That seems a bit odd, but may be a loophole.</p>
<p>Blue, if the primary reason for returning was to attend college after working a year they might very well not get instate tuition under the old rules. Now if they attended a Cali HS it would be automatic. You can become self-supporting and removed from the under 24 rule if you were really self-supporting. </p>
<p>I don’t see anything about a time limit if you went to a Cali HS. Go for it.</p>
<p>Every state has the “intent” factor, but no state bureaucrat can read minds. Once a independent renter for 12+ months (+state income tax+voting+DL+bank account), the Cal University cannot prove non-resident. They will provide instate tuition. It’s as automatic as completing the paperwork.</p>
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<p>The few states where I have looked, independent financial support is crucial, for at least 12 months. (That’s what it is in California.)</p>
<p>So, there’s no time limit? A person can graduate from a Calif high school, move away, get married, and come back AT ANYTIME and get instate rates? That doesn’t seem right. </p>
<p>My gut tells me that once a person has moved OOS, is beyond age 24, and/or married, the “right” ends.</p>
<p>Again, the “time limit” is 12 months in most, if not all states, regardless of age, once financially independent (and married would pass that definition).</p>
<p>I graduated from HS in OC in the 70’s. Now if I can only convince a relative to let me live with them rent free, go to college with in-state tuition…sounds like a great idea.</p>
<p>My Quote: My gut tells me that once a person has moved OOS, is beyond age 24, and/or married, the “right” ends. </p>
<p>Blue Bayou quote: Again, the “time limit” is 12 months in most, if not all states, regardless of age, once financially independent (and married would pass that definition). </p>
<p>So, if a person leaves the state, marries, then they don’t get this benefit?</p>
<p>I’m only asking because there’s a 25 year old married young woman on this forum that moved out of Calif (she went to high school in Calif), and now wants to move back and get in-state rates. Would she qualify?</p>
<p>They don’t have to read minds. They put the burden on you to prove intent and can do as they wish. If you don’t like the answer you can go to court over it. I had to appeal such a case in another state after an initial denial even though I worked 18 months and was my sole support…</p>