<p>ilikedrit,</p>
<p>I have been on this board for a long time, and the people here to not try to give bad advice as you suggest. You obviously need to pick and choose which advice to follow off these boards. As others said, do not post here if you you believe we are trying to deceive you.</p>
<p>I am already a graduate student, so I do not really care about whether your applications succeed or not. I do try to give and to get good advice on these boards. </p>
<p>Back to the question at hand: If an undergraduate asked me for a letter, I would probably not write one because it would not be of interest to the committee. As I said before, I would recommend that they asked my PI to write it. Depending on the lab, the PI would either write it themself or ask for help (verbal or written) from the grad student working with the undergrad if they did not know them personally. Sometimes the letter will be co-signed by the grad student/post doc and the PI. This way you get a stronger letter and a letter the committees will read (since a PI wrote it or at least signed it).</p>
<p>Take or refuse my advise, but don’t tell me. Regardless, you will only make enemies by telling board members that they are trying to lead you astray.</p>