<p>Thanks lia, it's good to see another person with similar grades as me make it into a good college. Ill check out Charleston and the others you mentioned, thanks!</p>
<p>i thought colleges don't look at freshmen grades...? cause it says that you have a "2.89 average for frosh - junior"...so shouldn't it just be your soph-junior gpa?</p>
<p>well a 2.89 is the average it says on my transcript</p>
<p>Your scores are not horrible. My daughter was similar and is thrilled at the CSU she is attending. Thats a State school you know, what I've been paying taxes for, so we are all happy. If your willing to spend the bucks you can find other schools to go to. I'm just confused as to what you consider a 'good' college if what your being offered in CA isn't up to snuff because you seriously won't get better than that. Be happy you live in CA!</p>
<p>Whoever said Chapman University and Loyola Marymount University are B-level schools is mistaken. Many good students are turned down by those schools. They are becoming more exclusive. You can go to a CSU if you have good test scores. Go to CSU Mentor and get the formula (GPA x 800+SAT Scores must be 2900 or higher if you are in state, 3500 or higher if you are not)</p>
<p>A 3.0 GPA can defintely get you in some alright state colleges. You aren't in trouble, but then again, I take it you wanted to do better, and you probably could've and should've done better. I know in my state, Illinois, you can get into UIC(Ill-Chicago) with as a low as a 17 or 18 ACT and a GPA in the high 2's and it has a pretty good business program(rated in top 70 in BusinessWeek). </p>
<p>So you're not out of it yet. Yea, you won't make it to the elite colleges, but you still got a shot at making it to a decent school. Try to show it through the ACT's or SAT's if you're a junior, try to score real high on those.</p>
<p>Do something to add to your application in whatever your area of interest is. If you are an artsit, try to enter aa many art contests as you can over the next year and try to participate in art classes/camps. If you like science, do a science fair project and kep it up for the next 2 yrs. If you're into writing try writing for your school/submit articles to your local paper. If you focus on something you love to do and try to get some awards for it (state level at least, national awards would boost your application and definetly give you a better shot at other schools) you will have a chance. GPA is important but if you have great EC's it will show colleges you can do well. Students at top colleges usually like to suceed at stuff and generally have won awards (they just also usually happen to also have high GPA's) so keep your grades up next year and start working on an EC you love and you'll be fine. Plus, California schools are awesome so even you go to school there you are getting a great education! =)</p>
<p>"Sorry, but a 3.0 hasn't been considered "good" in a long time. And forgive me for arguing, but i need to let some of my feelings out. Please don't think you deserve so much better just because you weren't as lazy this year as you were the last couple of years. If you had tried hard all 4 years, then I could respect you. "</p>
<p>dude whats your problem, the kid wasn't born here he came from africa, he seems to have matured alot since freshman year and now notices that he can do better, if you ask me i would rather have this kid than some of you assh**** with 4.0 gpa, why because this kid is adamantly wanting to turn around his grades while most people with a 4.0 gpa just wanted to get good grades to get into college and as soon as they get in they start slacking.
Manifest, dont worry I know you can still get into alot of good colleges, and if you dont get into a college you like just go and get really good grades and transfer out. and try to study for the act or sat.</p>
<p>I have an 84 average, but kickass ECs and a 2350 will probably put me in one of the best schools in the country. Don't get discouraged by this crowd. Just make another part of your application stand out.</p>
<p>I agree, that Lamdun guy was a real a-hole. Making it sound like he's better than this kid who made this thread. I could brag about my GPA too, but it's not necessary in this thread. </p>
<p>THIS KID JUST WANTED SOME SUGGESTIONS AND SOME THOUGHTS, HE DIDN'T NEED SOME PUNK ASS SNOBBY MORON TO GET ON HIS CASE. </p>
<p>Hey Lamdun you idiot, everyone is different, just because you take 6 AP classes and make yourself go through all nighters doesn't make you smarter than the next person. </p>
<p>He probably tried pretty hard after his freshman year, give him some credit for the fact that he tried to improve himself. </p>
<p>I have a friend who got a 15 on his ACT's and he's pretty damn smart about a lot of things. He just has some learning issues where he's slow with things. But he gets A's and B's if he tries and he's pretty good with computers and technical stuff like that. </p>
<p>SMART AND TRYING HARD IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. </p>
<p>GET A ****ING CLUE YOU JACKA$$</p>
<p>Lamdun = wow</p>
<p>Its just grades man... you shouldn't spend every waking moment worried about your grades. They are just numbers. Life isn't about learning every thing possible, its the whole experience of living. You're a real loser man.</p>
<p>The kid didn't say he was born in africa, he said he spent 8 years there.</p>
<p>And yes, grades aren't everything. But, they show that you are intellegent/a hard worker--colleges love this. So technically, grades in high school can determine the rest of you life.</p>
<p>"And yes, grades aren't everything. But, they show that you are intellegent/a hard worker--colleges love this. So technically, grades in high school can determine the rest of you life."</p>
<p>That couldn't be further from the truth. Grades do not necessarily show your intelligence it shows your ability to play the school game. There are plenty of intelligent people who are poor at what I call the "school game." How is school a game you ask? School is largely a student's ability to do well on tests (tests do not show intelligence), to be able to convince the teacher to like him, and being able to force yourself to do hours of MEANINGLESS work. The only reason most kids try to do well in high school is because they want to get into a good college. The fact of the matter a could who goes to a crappy college and majors in the same field as you will likely end up at the same place in the end.</p>
<p>The school systems today provide kids with complete garbage that they don't need to study, crap like chemistry and calculus. The VAST MAJORITY of people really don't need courses like that and really aren't interested at all by the courses and only take the course because it looks goon on a college application. The school systems would be much better if they provided the kids with stuff that actually had meaning, courses that actually opened their eyes and made them want to change the world. </p>
<p>Also do we need to go into all the people who have lived successful lives even though they never completed college? Bill Gates, anyone? You can also add Edgar Allen Poe, Steve Jobs, Ted Turner, and Frank Lloyd Wright to that list. We can go further and talk about the high school dropouts like Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Peter Jackson, Peter Jennings, etc. These monumental successes never let their grades determine their life.</p>
<p>"grades in high school can determine the rest of your life" - are you kidding me? Do you go to school just so you can get good grades and make it into a top-notch college? no you don't. you go to school to learn and mature; high school education isn't about grades, nor is it about trying your best to get into a top school so that you can supposedly "get ahead" in life, its about your willingness and your passion to learn for the sake of knowledge.</p>
<p>think about: what is the point of life when you graduate from HS and college, when you go into society? the amount of money you make isn't going to buy you anything more than a rat's ass worth of materialistic pleasure, you're not going to become a better person and you're not going to live a happy life. the only thing that you can continue doing after your youth has expired, after you find yourself stuck in some city doing performing the same task for money day after day is to continue learning...not for money, not for love or physical pleasure, but for the possibility of enriching the world with your education.</p>
<p>Loyola can't be too hard, they're e-stalking me... hell i've a 3.2 (3 year avg) and i'm being snail & e-stalked out of state... yet not the ones i really want though.</p>
<p>'"grades in high school can determine the rest of your life" - are you kidding me? Do you go to school just so you can get good grades and make it into a top-notch college? no you don't. you go to school to learn and mature; high school education isn't about grades, nor is it about trying your best to get into a top school so that you can supposedly "get ahead" in life, its about your willingness and your passion to learn for the sake of knowledge.'</p>
<p>That's the way it should be but not the way it is. Most kids do simply go to school for the grade and nothing else. Most kids don't care about learning anything as long as they get an A in the course. Honestly, if you could pick a high school transcript filled with C's but you were able to learn the material very well or a high school transcript filled with A's where you didn't learn a thing which would you pick? If most kids could get A's and not have to come to school they would just pick the A's. This shows that most kids don't care about the learning and maturing they just want to get into the college of their choice.</p>
<p>"Also do we need to go into all the people who have lived successful lives even though they never completed college? Bill Gates, anyone? You can also add Edgar Allen Poe, Steve Jobs, Ted Turner, and Frank Lloyd Wright to that list. We can go further and talk about the high school dropouts like Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Peter Jackson, Peter Jennings, etc. These monumental successes never let their grades determine their life."</p>
<p>Those are the select few. How many Fortune 500 CEO's are high school/college drop outs? You may say that they are not happy with their lives...but how do you know? How many high school drop outs are happy with their lives? You can't measure that either. So are you judging a successful life by making a lot of money? Well, it's really hard to judge success by money...</p>
<p>"And yes, grades aren't everything. But, they show that you are intellegent/a hard worker--colleges love this. So technically, grades in high school can determine the rest of you life."</p>
<p>"That couldn't be further from the truth. Grades do not necessarily show your intelligence it shows your ability to play the school game."</p>
<p>Um that's why I said it measure how hard of a worker you are. Try reading my entire post.</p>
<p>"The school systems today provide kids with complete garbage that they don't need to study, crap like chemistry and calculus."</p>
<p>Oh, because it's not like you need to know chemistry to be a chemist or doctor. And calculus really doesn't help in the business world.</p>
<p>"think about: what is the point of life when you graduate from HS and college, when you go into society? the amount of money you make isn't going to buy you anything more than a rat's ass worth of materialistic pleasure, you're not going to become a better person and you're not going to live a happy life."
Money buys secruity, and when a person has secruity they don't have to worry about a lot of things. Then, they can deal with other things in their life (perhaps things that make them happy?). Oh wait no...that never happens.</p>
<p>"That's the way it should be but not the way it is. Most kids do simply go to school for the grade and nothing else. Most kids don't care about learning anything as long as they get an A in the course. Honestly, if you could pick a high school transcript filled with C's but you were able to learn the material very well or a high school transcript filled with A's where you didn't learn a thing which would you pick? If most kids could get A's and not have to come to school they would just pick the A's. This shows that most kids don't care about the learning and maturing they just want to get into the college of their choice."</p>
<p>Nice generalization. My point of view is coming from a kid who went to a private high school, so things may be different at a public school.</p>
<p>Also do we need to go into all the people who have lived successful lives even though they never completed college? Bill Gates</p>
<p>Bill gates is a bad example</p>
<p>Don't be too hard on Lamdun. It was a odd comment for the OP to make, to say that it's unfair that he'd have to go to a state school - UC Berkeley is one of the best universities in the US, and it's a state school.</p>
<p>"Those are the select few. How many Fortune 500 CEO's are high school/college drop outs? You may say that they are not happy with their lives...but how do you know? How many high school drop outs are happy with their lives? You can't measure that either. So are you judging a successful life by making a lot of money? Well, it's really hard to judge success by money..."</p>
<p>So what are you judging success by? Are you judging it by what college a person attends? That's what your original post makes it seem like: "So technically, grades in high school can determine the rest of you life." What you are implying in this post is that we should measure success by happiness and as you stated we can't really measure these people's happiness, so there is no way to measure success. </p>
<p>"Um that's why I said it measure how hard of a worker you are. Try reading my entire post."</p>
<p>You should try reading my entire post as well. I stated: "...and being able to force yourself to do hours of MEANINGLESS work." So it does show you are a hard worker but many kids have no desire to do this largely meaningless and tedious work that they know they'll never have to use in the real world.</p>
<p>"Oh, because it's not like you need to know chemistry to be a chemist or doctor. And calculus really doesn't help in the business world."</p>
<p>Let's see what my post said: "The school systems today provide kids with complete garbage that they don't need to study, crap like chemistry and calculus. The VAST MAJORITY of people really don't need courses like that..." Emphasis on VAST MAJORITY. Seriously, what's the percentage of people who are doctors or chemists? Also, my sister is an account with a CPA and is about to go back to school to get her MBA I asked her the other day if she remembers calculus, she said no. What does a CPA not remembering a damn thing about calculus tell you? That most business people really don't use it once they get a job.</p>
<p>"Money buys secruity, and when a person has secruity they don't have to worry about a lot of things. Then, they can deal with other things in their life (perhaps things that make them happy?). Oh wait no...that never happens."</p>
<p>Wait so are we going back to the money measures success? Earlier you stated: "So are you judging a successful life by making a lot of money? Well, it's really hard to judge success by money..." Well, your making it seem like rich people are almost certainly going to be happier. If a person is making a lot of money doing something he doesn't enjoy he's likely not going to be happy.</p>
<p>"Nice generalization. My point of view is coming from a kid who went to a private high school, so things may be different at a public school."</p>
<p>I'm sure private school kids are soooooo much different. They probably don't care at all about their grades and the reason that they take calculus and four years of a foreign language isn't because they think it will look good on a high school transcript but because they love learning.</p>