Low-Income,Family Situation and Selective Colleges

<p>Oh alright, that’s good :)</p>

<p>So by the way, how do I know if my school has class or school rank? I know there’s valedictorian but I don’t think there’s class rank.</p>

<p>If I would rank hypothetically, then I am probably top 10 in a class of 33 kids.</p>

<p>I’m kind of depressed right now, well just read this
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<p>Top 10 in a class of 33 kids means you’re not top 10% but with a class that small, your school probably only has valedictorian, salutatorian, and “school does not rank”.
Is it a rural public school? A private school?</p>

<p>Yeah, my school only has 250 high schools kids and another 250 middle school kids…lol.</p>

<p>It’s a public city school.</p>

<p>I really still want to go to Cornell or even Stanford…
I think I deserve to be in one of those ivy leagues because I am responsible and don’t mess around like other kids who don’t work as hard as me ALL BY MYSELF without ANY help from my parents. Constant family stress and pressure also affects me…My friends say I worry TOO much about school and I should calm down…but I want to go to Ivy League and they are not taking it as seriously because they’re fine with going to Penn State or Temple, I’m not.</p>

<p>You need to read <em>The New Kids</em> by B. Hauser.</p>

<p>NO ONE “deserves” the Ivy League or any top 25 school (BTW, there are other schools in the Top 25 than the Ivy League, whether u’s or LACs). You can make yourself worthy of being admitted to one of them, then keep your fingers crossed because there will be three times the number of “deserving” applicants - yes, three times more perfectly qualified students than there are spots.</p>

<p>Start looking at a lot of schools and think of fit rather than prestige. Then you’ll refine your criteria.</p>

<p>BTW, earlier you said most of your classmates were looking at UPenn, and now you said Penn State, did you confuse the two?</p>

<p>No, I meant I didn’t want to go to state schools. I’ll be fine with uPenn but I know I can’t get in, but I would like to try…</p>

<p>Another quick question.
For 9th grade, I joined the school online newspaper and since then I’ve been one of the few people that actually writes a whole bunch, edits and does everything right. In 9th grade I’ve written a lot of articles, but in 10th grade I wrote 4 a month, so at least 5 pages a month, and that kind of tanked my grades a bit vs. 9th grade. So in 11th grade I’m writing less articles but still a couple. So can I put that in my essay, resume or something? I am a dedicated writer and dedicated just in general, I don’t mess around.</p>

<p>There is hope! My sat score went up like 700+ since I took the PSAT in 10th grade. I ended up with 2160. I am an immigrant and have only been in the states for 4 years. As long as you work hard, participate in a lot of EC, committed to things you are passionate about, then there should be nothing holding you back. Show your leadership skills and communication skills as well! (I am applying go colleges this year:))</p>

<p>Ad btw my parents don’t make a lot of money too and I work 15 hours per week.</p>

<p>Yeah</p>

<p>But my other problem is that my class looks like the smartest class that my small HS (250 people) has had in a few years, I’m like top 10 at most out of 33 kids…so Im leaning on my SATs and my family situation to get into selective colleges…</p>

<p>Family situation isn’t a major factor in your admission process. But make sure yourself are more well rounded.</p>

<p>Yea I try, there’s no class rank in my class but I’m not the best student, more like top 10, is that okay?</p>

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<p>You should really change your attitude…</p>

<p>I don’t want to, but that doesn’t mean I’m not, everyone wants to go to their dream colleges.</p>

<p>You need to explore colleges, starting from the bottom up.
Identify 2 schools anywhere in the country that you like, that have a high admission rate, where your current SAT/GPA place you above the top 25%, AND that meet 100% need. Add 2 in-state schools.
Then, from that “100%” list, add 4-5 that have admission rates above 30%. Finally, once you have these 8-10 schools, add your dream schools.
[100%</a> Meet Need Colleges | CollegeGreenlight](<a href=“Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students”>Colleges with Need-Blind Admission for U.S. Students)</p>

<p>As I said, read <em>The new kids</em> by Hauser.</p>

<p>In many cases though, at the highly selective colleges, GPA and course rigor trump SAT scores.</p>

<p>Since you’re from PA, we can’t blame you as a low-income student to not want to go to a PA public university, since they’re expensive and there’s lousy financial aid, meaning you could get into Penn State and not be able to afford it even as an in-state resident.
Do look into Shreyer’s Honors College though, and West Chester.</p>

<p>Well my mom wants to move out of the state, so anywhere on the East Coast would be fine, and yes I’m looking at other colleges, that’s not a thing to worry about. I’m more worried about school and SATs because I’m not the best student in class, more like the best 1/4 of the whole grade (which is about 65 people) but my grades are good, I never had more than 2 Bs in a major class, but a few of my friends’ grades are better than mine, so I’m trying to work on the SATs to improve in that area.</p>

<p>If your mom moves out of state, you won’t qualify for in-state tuition in PA anyway… If she has a choice (or, if it doesn’t matter where she goes), states with excellent in-state public universities for a fair price are Virginia, North Carolina, and California. If your family lives there for 12+ months (ie, if you move this year) and pays taxes there, you’d be considered a resident. </p>

<p>For SAT’s, use number2.com, it’s a free website meant to help lower-income kids with a computerized “tutor” - you register and it follows your answers and keeps giving you problems where you have trouble until you can solve them. :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Don’t obssess over it though.</p>

<p>Ok, well I plan to move 2-3 months before I go to college, so I guess not.
And thanks for the site :)</p>

<p>I got a question, I moved from 1 state to another when I was in middle school and moved back after 1 year. The reason being my mom had difficulty finding jobs and finding a place to rent a house, my mom and I went back because it’s more familiar for me and her. Can I put that on my QB and common app?</p>