@SJ2727 yeah I understand that a good number of students have been accepted under the 25th percentile, I was just interested in hearing peoples’ first hand experience with it and what they think made them a good candidate (for example if they did have a hook or hooks then what were they)
and wake forest and unc are ranked 27th and 29th (so towards the end too) so i’d still be happy to hear. nothing is “not competitive enough” !