Low sat scores ok gpa, (safety school rejects)

<p>hey guys,</p>

<p>I am an international student(british)..
Am doing IB, Have a gpa of 3.36(11th gpa was 3.67)
my SAT scores are low yes very low 1510 to be precise, 570 critical reading, 510 writing and 430 in math.</p>

<p>I applied in this manner </p>

<p>Safety-Purdue</p>

<p>Indiana, Illinois(UC), Texas, Austin ,Northeastern, Ohio State and Penn State</p>

<p>The problem now is that, I thought worst case I will goto Purdue, but they rejected me today on the basis of Academic Expectation. I still ahve not come to terms with it...</p>

<p>Is there any shot of me making it to the other schools listed..</p>

<p>Just so u know I do IB Math SL and have a grade B and IB english of Grade B+ ..I am just horrible at these Standardized Tests</p>

<p>The thing is I really want to attend Uni in States but if im gonna get rejcted from all because of my SAT's ..then canada is the likely option ..really dont wanna go there..</p>

<p>Perhaps you can apply to test-optional schools?</p>

<p>SAT is very important for international student for obvious reason. Unfortunately SAT score of 1510 is very low for all these schools especially for international student. Have you tried to study or find ways to improve your scores, 430 math is extremely low, we are talking about mostly simple algebra problems.</p>

<p>Also why Purdue is your safety school? Purdue is the more competitive school on your list. Do you know what safety school mean? One way to look at it is that you should be in or above the upper quartile for GPA/SAT score, and for Purdue that is in the range of 3.5/1870. Unfortunately, your SAT score is not even closed to upper quartile for any of the school listed. Maybe test-optional school suggestion is your best route.</p>

<p>Purdue is not safety at all. Even for my stat, 1900 SAT, it’s only match-not that safety. As ttparent says, safety means your are above the average. For example, middle range SAT for A university is 1400-1800, then you should be at least 1700 (if you mean by REAL safety like 100% sure then more than 1800) to consider it a safety-and purdue stat is higher than 1400-1800 range.</p>

<p>So do you want me to suggest some safety right? Then I would say…

  • Arizona State University
  • SUNYs
  • CUNYs (suggest CCNY)</p>

<p>These schools have lower stat yet still good schools.</p>

<p>im doing undeclared for Indiana and Texas, will that not help at all</p>

<p>and lastly are penn and ohio state also not an option at all</p>

<p>I have really good eextra curcciular work and pretty good recommendation letters…</p>

<p>Purdue i was going for business so i thought it do be enough…</p>

<p>DO u think i should appeal or would it make no difference to them…</p>

<p>I have tried studying for SAT’s but i really cant do it for some reason</p>

<p>and last thign i applied to penn statee altooona, please tell me i can make it there atleast… I m going to shoot my self if i cant make it there as weelll</p>

<p>I think you will most likely be able to start out in a branch of Penn State and then transfer to the main campus after two years if you want to. I know that local students could get in with those scores anyway. Did you only check off Altoona? There are other branches too, such as Behrend, which is one of the larger branches located in Erie, PA. A Penn State branch is no where near as difficult to get into as Purdue.</p>

<p>hey ik u think i should change my campus from altoona to eerie or u think i should cut off university park and choose alttona and eerie both…</p>

<p>Lastly u think i have any shot at all for Indiana, Texas and Ohio State…</p>

<p>Im not gonna ask for aid!</p>

<p>If I’m not mistaken, doesn’t Penn State let you check off every branch you would consider attending? Both Altoona and Behrend are fairly big and well-liked. I think that Penn State will offer you a branch admission if you cannot get into University Park. I won’t lie, UP is a pretty competitive admission. It’s a beautiful college town, has respected academics and sports and lots of school spirit. Lots of people choose Altoona because it is only about a one hour drive from UP. Behrend is in Erie, which is one of the larger cities in PA (still, it’s not all that big). Don’t be too discouraged yet, though, as maybe you offer UP that “diversity” factor. </p>

<p>Did you ever see this bubble chart floating around on this board? Unfortunately, these huge schools depend heavily on stats. I symathize with you though, because I have a daughter who does not test nearly as well as she should.</p>

<p><a href=“http://admissions.psu.edu/info/counselors/bubble_chart06.pdf[/url]”>http://admissions.psu.edu/info/counselors/bubble_chart06.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You could always email or call an admissions counselor and ask for advice in campus selection options for your individual case.</p>

<p>Sorry, but I can’t really speak about the other schools in detail except that Ohio State is pretty similar to Penn State, and UIUC is similar to Purdue.</p>

<p>Did you ever consider applying to a medium or smaller college that would look at your accomplisments on a more personal level and not just see your numbers? What do you want to study?</p>

<p>hey again sir,</p>

<p>Well I am planning on doing Business…but if i could slip by to these universities by going into Undeclared…I am sure i could make it in as gpa has never been a problem…</p>

<p>But seeing that my SAT’s are so low…i think im sorta running out of luck and this option unfortunately…</p>

<p>In terms of small schools, If u have any schools that u could suggest to me that would be of great help on ur part…But the thing is most school deadlines have passed now…so in a really awkward position as of now…</p>

<p>But i will definately make change to eerie since u are so strongly suggesting it…and looking at wikipedia made me realize it does have a better business school than altoona…so thank u…</p>

<p>Also do u ahppen to ahve any of those Stats for any of my other shcool…</p>

<p>I realized Illinois was never something I would get into but just gave it a shot…</p>

<p>Thanks again…</p>

<p>Let me think about the other college thing…maybe some with rolling admissions…lI think there is a list on here somewhere listing schools with rolling admissions and schools with late application deadliines…</p>

<p>It is really hard to get into Smeal Business School at Penn State. They have “restricted majors” so even if you are in UP and want to choose one of their majors, you may not be able to if your sophomore gpa is too low. I know somebody at UP who wanted accounting and was like a fraction of a gpa point low, and he was denied.</p>

<p>A lot of schools have rolling admissions so you might want to try those…</p>

<p>Indiana State, Texas Tech, are just a few that I can think of. </p>

<p>If you get rejected by all the schools you applied to, you can also apply to the branch campuses, do well there, and then transfer. </p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>Try this:</p>

<p>[Finding</a> Rolling-Admission Colleges - Ask The Dean](<a href=“http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/archives/000228.htm]Finding”>http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/archives/000228.htm)</p>

<p>I know that the University of Pittsburgh has several campuses and is rolling admissions.</p>

<p>right…thank you…I pray that i get into eerie worst case…
or some recession miracle helps me…</p>

<p>really aint a bad student…cant belive these SAT’s have so much weight placed on them… I do IB and yet this…damn </p>

<p>But thank you again for ur inputs…If i get in somewhere i will definatly let u know…Hope ure daughter also gets in where she wants…</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>oh wait im not done…do u think appealing has any effect?</p>

<p>Yes, sometimes. I know somebody who was denied at Penn State main and he and/or his mother wrote an appeal letter. They explained that he had extenuating circumstances (slight learning disability diagnosed), and that he had overcome a lot so far. They admitted him for the summer session and he has since graduated. </p>

<p>Did you check off that you would be willing to begin for the summer session? That is one way that “marginal” people sometimes get in there.</p>

<p>I would look for lists of rolling admission colleges, like Pitt, and any that have really late application deadlines… just in case! Here is one website for this info:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/LateDeadlineSchools.asp[/url]”>http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/LateDeadlineSchools.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The recession miracle is a lot more likely at private colleges than state schools. Students who can no longer afford private colleges are making state schools harder to get into. But second and third tier private colleges are in need of students, and many will still accept applications.</p>

<p>Why do you want to spend all of this money on mediocre, at best, US schools? Sounds like you would do better in the UK or EU in general. Many of these branch campuses are commuter schools and you would not get the traditional college experience.</p>

<p>I got 1590 on my SAT and I’ve been in the US for 6 years, I’m gonna have to take it again, and I’m busting my but off with the SAT guide & Barron’s SAT guide</p>

<p>It’s true what hmom5 said about some branches being “commuter schools”. Certainly all of them don’t fall into this category, and it is one way to get into the main campuses eventually. But you should check to make sure that most of the students actually stay on campus. </p>

<p>Do you have any friends who studied in the US? Could you learn from their experiences?</p>

<p>i got in2 northeastern guys…looks like sat dint matter than much…hi 5</p>