<p>Any suggestions?</p>
<p>You should ask this in the International Students Forum.</p>
<p>I do not know of any place that offers aid for the ESL program.</p>
<p>International Scholars Programme at Pitzer in 2014.
Non-US students seeking need-based aid qualify for one.</p>
<p>Moar please? (:</p>
<p>I don’t think there is any ESL program with aid. If there is one, you should really aced your academic…
What is your TOEFL score?</p>
<p>I’m not sure it actually reflects any “proficiency”, but scores are really low.
Total 83: Reading 20, Listening 19, Speaking 23, Writing 21.
Question: does it worth applying for schools where: 1. my result’s slightly below the minimum? 2. Applying for colleges requiring SAT without SAT?
Additionally, stats and GPA seem to work quite well for admissions.</p>
<p>If the college requies 85 and your scores/SPA are good, it’s definitely enough. If the college requires 88 and you’re really competitive otherwise, it’s worth a shot. Over 88: don’t bother.
83 is not that bad. There are colleges that admit at 61, and community colleges at 57 or even 45. 
(Granted, I doubt the wisdom of attending college in English with a TOEFL 45 and that would likely require one full semester if not a full year of ESL classes).</p>
<p>Look at University Nebraska “UNO” program. </p>
<p>Do you want a list of colleges that admit with a TOEFL 61-85? </p>
<p>How much can your parents afford?
(This would help us selected the 61-85 colleges that offer financial aid.)
Do you have a SAT or an ACT score?</p>
<p>Thank you for the reply MYOS1634</p>
<p>Hope is to score 95+ soon. For now, 83 is what admissions will see. Im not really interested in ESL programmes and have named a thread this way because it definitely would give a chance to get acceptance (full-time) in some schools with need-based aid to int’ls. </p>
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<li>Also, maybe somebody has other suggestions about rich colleges for “B” international students? Unfortunately I cannot afford to pay as much, Here are some to apply for: Pitzer, Colorado, Connecticut, F&M.
Any Christian colleges or something like that? </li>
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<p>It will be a great assistance if anyone could check my whole list of LACs by email and advise to which worth to apply for seeking need-basedaid.</p>
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<li>I have only a TOEFL score now. and other <em>STATS</em> (:
—Applying for colleges, where SAT’s required, without SAT—
Do I have a chance for example at Lafayette to be considered at all?
(here, a minimum TOEFL score is 80, and SAT/ACT’S also required )</li>
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<p>mimicore -</p>
<p>You have 15 posts now, so you can send a PM. Send one to b@r!um. Ask her to describe the strategy she used when she was searching for places to study here that would offer her enough financial aid. She should have good advice for you.</p>
<p>Can you take a gap year? That would give you more time to improve your test scores, and you would be able to start your college/university applications earlier in the application season. There are not many places that have good need-based aid for international students, so you need to be able to spend time looking for them.</p>
<p>How much can you afford to pay?</p>
<p>Seeking full ride at “B” schools (:
I would not really like to reveal the list of colleges to apply for.
Now, during the admission period other students may use it.</p>
<p>Any Christian colleges with full scholarships or something like that?</p>
<p>mimicore,
“I would not really like to reveal the list of colleges to apply for.”
Treat others as you want to be treated. </p>
<p>I suggest that you take a gap year and improve your TOEFL. Also, the pool of international applicants is extremely competitive so you’ll face those who score even higher than US applicants. After all, admission officer prefer to see SAT’s since there is no other way for them to evaluate your ‘academic readiness’ for college. </p>
<p>Please do not be discouraged by my comment. I’m also an international applicant and applying for the second time. I wish there were someone to tell me all of the above in the past.</p>
<p>Mihalich, thanks for a comment. Also check your thread
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/1568762-russia-ukraine-any-other-russian-speaking-country.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/1568762-russia-ukraine-any-other-russian-speaking-country.html</a></p>
<p>1) Despite US schools, I have plan B in another countries, safety universities with full rides + indirect costs, transportation etc.</p>
<p>2) “I would not really like to reveal my list of colleges”
-----Yes, I won’t name those schools. Why? Because you seem to have better stats and applying for the same ones would get better chances of being admitted/granted. Simple rivalry among applicants from 1 country.
Also colleges I’m applying for aren’t what you aim. These are not as competitive and test-optional, but still offer a lot of aid and full rides for internationals.</p>
<p>3) "I suggest that you take a gap year and improve your TOEFL. Also, the pool of international applicants is extremely competitive so you’ll face those who score even higher than US applicants. "
----- Thank you, that just encouraged me more (:
It worth nothing to try this year, especially if all the documents are ready.</p>
<p>Seems you will transfer. Be aware, colleges do not give as much to transfers.
What university are you currently attending now, KNU?</p>
<p>It’s all up to you. 
Those are just my suggestions based on my experience and… mistakes. </p>
<p>As for the rivalry, I had the same feeling a year ago when I failed to get any offers. What I meant was you will gain more if you share more. That’s how the forum functions. 
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<p>No, I’m not transferring. Where did you get that? :D</p>