<p>Im getting an impression that getting into UM engineering is much easier then getting into UM LSA. Can anyone prove me wrong plz.</p>
<p>It would be hard to say--engineering readers are weighing things a little differently. For example, they are looking closely at how much math an applicant has taken, and how he or she did in those classes. That may change how they interpret GPA. Furthermore, math scores on standardized tests matter a little more than they might for LSA.</p>
<p>Thus, I suppose for some candidates it might be easier to get into Engin than LSA, but for others it would be the opposite.</p>
<p>The average ACT score for Michigan engineering is a 29, which I beleive is slightly higher than the average LSA average.</p>
<p>We were told at an orientation meeting that the average GPA for Michigan Engineering was a 3.0 and that the average ACT score was a 31. They could have meant the math portion though, because they did stress that the rest aren't nearly as important.</p>
<p>"the average GPA for Michigan Engineering was a 3.0"</p>
<p>That can't be right. According to the 2004-05 Common Data Set, 98% of all incoming freshman has GPA of 3.0 or higher. The average GPA is 3.72.</p>
<p>Entering undergrad student profile - Fall 2004</p>
<p>Total freshman applications ..... 3,763
% offered admission ............... 77%
Median HS GPA for admitted freshmen ..... 3.9
Median ACT for admitted freshmen .......... 29
Median SAT for admitted freshmen .......... 1330</p>
<p>Note that this is for admitted freshmen, not enrolled.</p>
<p>77% ? Wow!!!!!</p>
<p>Sorry. You're right. I meant to type 3.9. That's what we were told.</p>
<p>umm...i dont get...if 77% get accepted, and most have 3.9 gpa then is it that only ppl with high gpa apply to UM ?...How lucky for Um then... or is there a case of tempering with facts? Just wondering nothing more to it.</p>
<p>I'd think that shows it's a self-selective group. Only serious applicants apply to Michigan engineering, and thus have appropriate stats.</p>
<p>That is right Matthew, Michigan (not just Engineering mind you) is very self-selective when it comes to its applicant pool. Not quite as self-selective as Johns Hopkins or Chicago, but not much less either. Few students from the state of Michigan with less than a 3.6 GPA and a 26 on the ACT/1200 on the SAT will apply to the University of Michigan...and out of staters who apply to Michigan usually do so for its highly regarded academics, so they tend to be pretty good students.</p>
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<p>Nope, no tampering with the facts. Michigan's reputation for engineering is pretty solid, and students and counselors know what it takes to get in. </p>
<p>It's an excellent example of how selectivity can't be accurately measured by acceptance rate alone.</p>