I’m aware that discussions with the same question exist. However, my circumstances are a tad different.
I will be applying to college for the class of 2024, but I am stuck between the CoE and LSA. My main interests are industrial systems, particularly the human element and making the workplace more ergonomic, so IOE sounds like the obvious choice at first. However, I also want to eventually work in either project management or managerial consulting post graduation, and I hear Ross is the way to go to receive such internships and am most likely not going to dual major with Ross if I go the engineering route as I’m not confident I would be able to handle the course load.
CoE:
Pros-
-The skills I need to pursue my interests are embedded in the IOE curriculum.
-Required technical courses from other engineering departments may serve me well in the future.
-I tend to click with engineer types (most of my friends in high school are studying engineering)
-CoE is heavily recruited from on its own
-Can live at home and collect BAH after first year (parents live near north campus)
Cons-
-More difficult to get accepted to than LSA
-Won’t have enough time to take additional electives from LSA beyond the required intellectual breadth.
-Not even going to apply to Ross (no networking)
-By the time I’m a freshman, it’d be 4 years since I’ve taken a math class.
-Bursley (plan on living in a dorm my first year)
LSA:
Pros-
-Can take whatever classes I want and relearn Spanish.
-Will provide me with a well rounded education.
-If I get accepted to Ross as a preadmit, I’ll have Ross recruitment.
-Ross also offers better preparation for applying what students learn to the workplace (presentation skills, mock interviews, etc).
-Central campus is nicer imo
Cons-
-Ross is extremely selective, and if I don’t get accepted there, I’ll be pretty confused on what to major in in LSA to pursue my interests.
-Annoyed by UM building tall dorms where they do not belong (where Blimpy Burger used to be).
-Don’t think I’ll click with mainstream LSA college students as well.
My views may be a bit narrow-sighted as I’ve only done a formal visit to LSA and haven’t had the opportunity to ask anyone from Ross or CoE of their opinions, so feel free to offer any suggestions as to what I should do. All comments will be greatly appreciated!
Not thread related:
Feel free to suggest other schools that may interest me. Money is not a factor.
Thanks a bunch!
You can also apply for CoE with Ross. It is a lot easier to transfer from engineering to LS&A then visa-versa (because of mandatory freshman engineering classes) , so I’d start with CoE if your grades and SAT/ACT are high. It is equally difficult to be admitted to CoE and Ross.
More than half of freshman CoE classes (math, physics, etc.) are on central campus, so don’t assume that you will be placed in Bursley. If you join a learning community you will likely be placed in the dorm where it is headquartered.
My son is a sophomore in Industrial engineering at Michigan. He went the lsa route (his stats we good enough for engineering 3.9 and 34 act but had his reasons). He did a cross campus transfer which is easy to do. All of the first year engineering class except for 2 are with lsa students. The 2 for engineering requirements are a first year technical writing course and engineering like 100 /101. He took a first year writing course and C++/python instead of Matlab.
He also is using industrial to go into management /consulting in the business sector. He might apply for a business minor or just class business type of classes to gain knowledge or do a bs /ms or go for a MBA… Just to soon to tell right now.
His industrial engineering stats class and economics are both extremely business geared. I looked at his recent homework and was surprised at the depth and real time examples. He’s had stats and economic prior but not like this.
Talk to the department. He also lived in West quad his first year. He also might graduate a semester early since he took full credits the first 2 semesters with around 18 each then took 2 classes this summer. This will make his schedule much easier plus he can do other things. He worked, played intermural sports, created a student org /club which is taking off and keeps him busy.
There are also business type opportunities and he got 2 grants with another students worth $15,000 and worked the whole summer making things happen.
Michigan will support just about anything you want to do and the alumni is a real thing.
I think you know what you want so now just go get it. But for you industrial seems like a no-brainer.
I’d be concerned about how admissions committees might think you will do in engineering or economics when your math exposure is so far back in the past.
I saw this also but just assumed he was some Uber elite math kid. Michigan assumes you are starting at Calculus 1 for most disciplines.
Ross rejects tend to apply to School of Information, Ford School, Org Studies, and PPE while in LSA.
LSA is whatever you make of it. I’ve seen several work at Snapchat, Handshake, Ford, IBM, PWC, Target, Goldman Sachs, Oracle, Amazon, Microsoft, and Accenture.
Just be sure to take advantage of the career center, handshake, career fairs, LSA opportunity hubs, and all the info sessions.
https://careercenter.umich.edu
I’ve been out of high school for the past three years working as a firefighter. I did take calculus senior year and aced it, however I too am worried about the fact that my break in education will hinder my chances of getting accepted to the engineering school. I’m fairly confident that I can get accepted into LSA since I know I’ll get stellar recs (my high school teachers and superiors love me), but industrial engineering really interests me, so Knowsstuff’s comment regarding cross campus transfers is pretty assuring.
Does anyone have anymore statistics regarding the difficulty of transferring into CoE from LSA? Thanks again!
https://www.engin.umich.edu/admissions/undergrad/cross-campus-students/
Call the department and talk with Bryon Enchos if you need help. He is in engineering admissions and extremely helpful…
Once you are in the Michigan system they will help you succeed. Classes are not easy but transferring seems to be.
Also talk to lsa admissions and get their take on it. They will both tell you that students transfer into and out of Engineering all the time. They will also suggest to apply to engineering directly. Either route will get you into engineering. Take the route that you are confident that will get you there.
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