<p>ikatfabric - I believe every NYU student is bound to 18 credits a semester, after that you must pay more. Most classes are 4 credits, sometimes 6 credits with Lab. Most NYU students do 4 classes/semester. A 4 or 5 on certain AP’s gives you credits as well, you can graduate 1-2 semesters early if you have enough.</p>
<p>You can still take electives and classes toward your major right away. Basically you must complete 12 LSP requirements (listed above) in the span of 2 years, allowing you 4 electives. Foreign Language is a CAS requirement unless you place out of it.</p>
<p>It seems to me that LSP is good if you’re majoring in something humanities-related. What if you’re a math or science major? Can they be put into LSP as well? How does it affect them to be taking so many humanities courses?</p>
<p>Since you’re not really tied to a major when you apply, pretty much anyone can be put into LSP, except Stern and Tisch kids (and apparently, even one Tisch program does coordinate with LSP). There are a lot of humanities classes, but even if you were in CAS, you’d have to do MAP courses (granted, you’d be doing fewer classes, but you can’t get around them no matter what). I am not certain if this will still apply starting this fall, but if you are a math or science major, you may be able to major out of one of the science (the other being an actual LSP course) or math requirements. Otherwise, I assume it would be difficult but doable to just cram so much stuff into your schedule if you have to do all the LSP requirements and choose to do, say, pre-med.</p>
<p>That’s not true. Posted on the Admissions Board forum is a list of majors in CAS that NYU will not refer to LSP. Unfortunately the board is down for the Memorial Day weekend. </p>
<p>Mostly science and neural science majors were on the list.</p>
<p>I don’t know about the other science majors, but I put down Biology as my major on the NYU application and was originally put into LSP. I was later switched into CAS but I don’t think that was major related.</p>
<p>Are you sure it’s that the student won’t get placed in LSP, or simply that they won’t be able to do their original major if they are placed in LSP? Because there are indeed many CAS majors that won’t count LSP classes towards the major requirements, and it might just be a matter of knowing that, if placed in LSP, there is no way a student will be able to fulfill all the requirements of specific major. You may very well be right, in which case it would be incredibly unfair to students who may change their mind about an intended major later on.</p>
Yes, most math/sci majors can be put into LSP. MAP requirements are mostly Humanities too. Most core requirements across American colleges are Humanities, since everyone can handle them. Science majors can handle Writing the Essay, English majors aren’t forced to do Astrophysics. LSP classes are easy, I do better in them than my friends who are Humanities majors. Don’t worry about GPA in this program
Nah, I’m doing Neural Science and Pre-Med and LSP.
No, they give you a choice; you can pick LSP and get in ED, or turn down NYU.</p>
<p>Thanks for the answer, Alix. That just makes me nervous because there are a lot of things at NYU that I’d like to dabble in, eg; foreign languages, computer science, but I won’t necessarily major in them. But the way I figure, since I’m undecided, even if I went to CAS, I could wind up not picking a major until junior year and not having enough time to finish it anyway. I find Humanities a lot of fun, but I don’t think I’d like major in anything like that. Is it really that big of a deal if you go for summer classes of have to stay a fifth year? Or is that way more expensive?</p>
<p>Most majors give you enough room to take several electives, and CAS takes many AP credits, which is how I managed to double-major and nearly double-minor in departments that had no cross-listings between each other. If you wait until junior year, you should still be okay for most majors, just not a lot of the science- or math-based ones, which have many more requirements than, say, politics or history. You can also use CAS MAP courses and AP credits to fulfill some major requirements.</p>
<p>Well, I only took three AP tests (my school doesn’t offer many AP classes). I got a 3 on one, but hopefully I did better on the other two. But you’re saying that it’s possible to still finish with everything? What’re your majors/minors, if you don’t mind my asking?</p>
<p>One of my majors was history and the other was politics, while my minor was French Language (I almost finished the Urban Design & Architecture Studies minor as well). I did the honors track for History, too, so I had an extra class in there. I came in with 16 AP credits from 4 tests, and I was placed in intensive intermediate French, so I got that out of the way in my first semester (since you need to do a language, I suggest sucking it up and taking the 5-day-a-week intensive courses just to free up your second year) and managed to finish the French minor in four semesters, taking only one class during each. I started my politics major my first semester freshman year and finished it by the end of first semester, junior year (I actually took two more classes than I needed to). I started my history major first semester, junior year and managed to finish it and the honors track because one of my AP tests, U.S. History, and one of my MAP courses, Russia Since 1917, both counted towards the requirements. The only MAP requirement, besides the ones I majored out of (and of those, I even chose to take Expressive Cultures anyway) I got out of was Quantitative Reasoning. I also had time to take a few electives. If you plan everything out just right and take advantage of time-saving options like the intensive language classes, it’s incredibly easy to finish everything on time…in CAS, at least.</p>
<p>Ah gotcha. I guess I’m in luck, though, because I was planning on doing the intensive courses for language anyway, since I want to take a lot of languages. The more days a week, the better.</p>
<p>How do LSP students’ high school stats differ from CAS students’ high school stats? Why would they put math/science majors into LSP–the tour guide I had at NYU (math major) said he hates history. Imagine putting him into LSP! How exactly does that work? Why would NYU even do it?</p>
<p>Just a Girl - Why doesn’t it make sense to you? MAP and LSP classes are mostly liberal arts; even in CAS, Math and Science majors are forced to do liberal arts requirements. That Math major tour guide was forced to do Writing the Essay, ConWest, etc.</p>
<p>Most American colleges have core requirements, which are generally liberal arts classes. Science majors are forced to study History, but History majors aren’t forced to learn Physics (because it’s actually hard lol). The LSP requirements are easy fluff…I did better in them than my friends who are liberal arts majors. Science and Math majors don’t struggle with the LSP requirements, don’t worry. </p>
<p>Most LSP students apply Undecided anyway. LSP also has math and science requirements, it’s not just humanities. The liberal arts majors are required to take math or science classes too.</p>
<p>Back on post #24 I mentioned that the NYU Admissions Bulletin Board listed majors that they are not going to select for LSP. As we’ve seen, everything is changing drastically from year to year, so I believe that this list would have become effective for class of '2013. </p>
<p>"Here is a list of majors in the College of Arts and Science that we do not select for Liberal Studies (as students cannot finish them in four years):</p>
Wow, that is crazy! I’m one of those majors (Neural Science) and also in LSP and preMed. Granted, it is very difficult, but possible as I have planned out all my courses with a preMed and CAS advisor, so I can complete preMed and Neural Science and LSP in 4 years. It should be mentioned I’m doing summer classes and had lots of AP credits. I applied Undecided which is why they must have stuck me here. </p>
<p>It’s SO stupid, they should seriously cut down on LSP requirements. Most LSP students are Undecided, so what if they pick one of those majors? They’re basically saying, “Ok kids, pick an easy major or pay 5 years of overpriced tuition!” If I could do it over again, I would’ve gone to a different college. I love NYU, but LSP is pathetic.
And for godsake, why aren’t Bio and Chem on that list, but Neuro and Biochem made it? lol</p>
<p>I’m still really unclear on how they would enforce that, as someone could just go around the bar by listing “English” as their intended major then switching to, say, Math. What a weird policy.</p>
<p>Alix2012 and Auron: I could not agree with you guys more. Thank you for telling people what LSP really is! I’m so sick of reading nonsense all over CC about it being a remedial program, or a waste of money, or whatever. If LSP is a waste of money, attending any NYU school must be a waste of money, since everyone has required courses, whether in Stern, Steinhardt or LSP, or whatever.</p>
